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October 11th, 02:02 AM
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Response Trigger
Could anyone tell me if i could get a response trigger on my spyder xtra? and yes, im new. i have been looking around for response triggers and can only find them for tippmanns. thank you
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October 11th, 02:57 AM
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No you can't get them for a spyder. The best you can do is an e-frame and do a switch mod making the trigger pull much lighter.
Check the Kingman forum for the how to.
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October 11th, 09:49 AM
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REsponce triggers are seen as illegal in most fields..
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October 11th, 11:17 AM
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I thought the R/T was only illegal during tourneys.
My local fields are all ok with it, just during tourneys i would have to take it out.
I guess it is just the fields preference
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October 11th, 11:22 AM
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At most of my local fields they will take it to teh chrony and make sure its set up so you can't sweetspot it. I think tippmanns rt is the dumbest thing ever. Its full auto, but it isn't.. Its kinda like 2 round burst. You can shoot just as fast as full auto.
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October 11th, 12:23 PM
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yeah, you can only get it for a tippy and i wouldnt recomend it even then for two reasons:
1) it doesnt make sense to spend $100 on one upgrade for a low end gun.
2) Even if you dont play tourneys youll get enddless grief from the people you were just playing.
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October 11th, 03:37 PM
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First, to avoid all confusion:
Response trigger: Fires 2 shots when you pull and release
Reactive trigger: Trigger forcefully resets after you pull. (via pneumatics)
Tippmann calls BOTH "Response triggers" which has led to massive confusion. Most people seem to think they are now the same thing.
There did exist mechanical reponse triggers for Mags and the old VM68, but they were complicated, and would not easily adapt to a spyder. Electro reponse systems are pretty common, and standard on many boards. Drop in kits are around for the Spyder, but these are not legal at most fields
For REACTIVE triggers, the only factory options are for the Tippmann and Automag, but its fairly easy to adapt to any mechanical gun. For parts, its just a $10 ram, and some tube/fittings. The only trick is getting it to fit inside the gun, which probobly requires some light machine work (in order for it to look good).
Again, not legal, but less restricted then other modes. Some tournaments even allow reactive triggers.
So, if RTs are pretty simple, why don't you see them for Spyders? Because E-grips are super cheap, and a far better upgrade.
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October 11th, 03:50 PM
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what if it says its a REACTIVE response trigger. Which one is it? 
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October 11th, 04:20 PM
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I wonder how tough it would be to jury rig up a reactive trigger for an E-Spyder. I don't think it would be too tough since there is very little trigger friction and movement. Whenever the bolt gets blown back there's usually a small blast of air that leaves through the bottom of the receiver into the grip. If there was some way to pipe that to the correct side of the trigger (bottom of trigger lever in grip instead of the top as it is now) this might just work. It's kind of a silly idea for an E-gun but might be fun to tinker around with for outlaw paintball.
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October 11th, 06:04 PM
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it could probably be done, if most of the slot on the bottom side of the tube was plugged, so that the only escape for that air would be through a small fitting, such as a barb form a cocker, you could do it. but still, that'd be just for kicks...go electro.
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