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**LuckXIII** · November 1st, 12:12 AM

To make it simple should I go for good set of googles or hpa first (currently own a scott therm and co2 running thru a 2k3 cocker) oh also this may not be the place to ask it but might as well add it along, what is the number one thing that will give a cocker a faster smoother pull, 3way or trigger frame like a kapp, blade, or dye?

**ShepardD** · November 1st, 12:14 AM

I say googles, can't hit what you can't see plus comfort makes a huge difference. I know I love my V-Force Profiler, it made a huge difference over the cheap JT mask I had.

**P8ntballin Hobo** · November 1st, 07:29 AM

i would get the hpa tank first the co2 can screw up the cocker if its not (anti-siphon) and it will also make the cocker run a little smoother

as for the trigger pull i would go with the eblade very nice up to a cocker even though its a little pricey

**Roadkill** · November 1st, 09:14 AM

Go straight for HPA for that cocker of yours. Co2 isnt very good for it. At the very least have it anti siphoned.

**Brockocoli** · November 1st, 09:19 AM

you will be miserable without a thermal mask. A JT proflex is fine if you are short on the cash or an invision is gret too...

**P8ntballin Hobo** · November 1st, 10:25 AM

whatever you do dont get the proflex the newer one is ok but the older one brockocoli has is ugly and cheap its nothing compared to the invision or profiler..

**visionimpulse2k** · November 1st, 04:50 PM

Hpa!!!hpa!!!

**Pr0ph3t** · November 1st, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by P8ntballin Hobo

whatever you do dont get the proflex the newer one is ok but the older one brockocoli has is ugly and cheap its nothing compared to the invision or profiler..

Both Proflexes look almost exactly the same.

With that said, get HPA.

**P8ntballin Hobo** · November 1st, 06:48 PM

^^^ yeah kinda except the '05 proflex has more color and a better feel

***Barber*** · November 1st, 06:55 PM

Get a crossfire 68/45 then save for a profiler. Don't waste time with lower grade stuff, just go ahead and get the best and don't waste money. If you want a good mech trigger frame get the blade. Real nice.

**LuckXIII** · November 1st, 09:43 PM

for a used 65/45 whats the very max I should spent on a used tank with 3-5years left? also so having a blade frame will help my pull more then getting say a 3way bomb or belsales hollowpoint?

**predator14** · November 1st, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ShepardD

I say googles, can't hit what you can't see plus comfort makes a huge difference. I know I love my V-Force Profiler, it made a huge difference over the cheap JT mask I had.

ya. i used to have the jt sheild some years ago. now i got teh invision.

**Frallan** · November 2nd, 03:15 AM

Mask... No question about it. If you play a lot a comfy mask makes a world of differance. My old mask is so good for me I don't even take it off between games from time to time and it gives me a Huge advantage on the field since I act as if I didn't have a mask at all.

**Brockocoli** · November 2nd, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by P8ntballin Hobo

^^^ yeah kinda except the '05 proflex has more color and a better feel

A better feel?????? Ok...whatever you say because you OWN a proflex. Although most people say HPA i still go with a good mask....if you have the money, go with an invision or profiler.

**PaintballRemix** · November 2nd, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by P8ntballin Hobo

whatever you do dont get the proflex the newer one is ok but the older one brockocoli has is ugly and cheap its nothing compared to the invision or profiler..

Are you serious? The proflex is a great mask. I have one my self it is very comfortable and never fogs. I took both the Invision and Proflex systems and compared how they felt. The invision is overrated and the hype was pushed by many teams just because it is a Dye product. The foam material is nowhere near as comfortable as a Proflex's and for people with glasses don't even bother with the invision. Although on the other hand the Profiler is a good mask, but for the money a proflex will work damn good.

As for your decision i would go with the HPA tank. If you have fogging problems www.fogtech.com will get it done fast. The HPA tank is going to come more into play once you get a higher end gun and you will be thanking us for telling you to buy one.

I figure it this way, a HPA tank is $180 or somewhere around there. If you have that cash isn't it easier to buy that first and then save up for something around $50 rather then something around $180? Just my way of doing things.

**P8ntballin Hobo** · November 2nd, 08:34 AM

i m sorry that was a little rough... i meant i dont like the older ones... but do like the newer ones they got more color and yes they can keep up with the invision and profiler... the proflex is good and it is really comfortable thats probably what our team is getting.... so.....

still go with the hpa tank^^^ like remix sayed it will definitly pay off down the road

**Brockocoli** · November 2nd, 08:56 AM

stop sucking up...the older ones are almost the exact same as the 05's. and remix...what kind do you have, the 03 or 04 proflex...???

**PaintballRemix** · November 2nd, 08:59 AM

Oh Three.

**Brockocoli** · November 2nd, 09:13 AM

alright...in your avatar...im pretty sure that that's a proflex....do most people take the 7 visor off the mask...personally i haven't yet but it looks a little odd..

**PaintballRemix** · November 2nd, 09:14 AM

Yeah they do. In my profile he has a invision lense frame.