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Old November 4th, 06:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old November 4th, 06:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old November 4th, 06:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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High PRessure air is basicly compresed air, or nitrogen.

REmember, regular air that we breahte is 78 percent nitrogen. So theres only relaly a 20% difference between nitrogen and air. To the player, its the same thing.
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Old November 4th, 06:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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AKA nitro. Tanks run from anywhere $70-$200 or even $500 in some cases. If ur getting some make sure u buy a carbon fiber shell one (its lighter and u'll really like this fact since the cheap ones are heavy steel) also try for a 4500psi if u can. It can hold more air and get more shoots. I recommend crossfire or nitroduck.
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Old November 4th, 06:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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With CO2, your going to be shooting everywhere. CO2 is a liquid when its in the tank, and sometimes it doesn't have enough time to expand to a gas before it reaches your marker. To do this, I'd suggest a few things.

An expansion chamber is a sort of grip that has 4 or more diamond shaped chambers that the air has to go through to make it turn into a gas. No more Snowflakes. If your shooting snowflakes it means you have liquid CO2 in your gun, which is bad for most kind of guns, but if your a new player, I wouldn't suggest anything that would cost that much. Higher end guns shoot N2 or Compressed air only.

I'm not exactly sure how the expansion chamber works, but I can make a good guess. (Please post here if you know how one works) I'm thinking the pressure increases when the air is forced into the smaller portion of the diamond. Then, it opens up to a wide space and it is distributed more evenly. This rapid compression and decompression alters the property of the liquid somehow and forces it to be a gas. I know that as pressure increases, so does temperature. But temperature fluctuations is bad for CO2. CO2 reacts to temperature by expanding and condensing, which can cause your burst discs to go.

Compressed air solves all of these issues. Compressed air is the same as nitrogen to the player. It acts basically the same. Compressed air is just taking the air we breathe, and compressing it. Remember that air is about 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen and small traces of argon and CO2 mostly. So 78% and 100% Nitrogen won't make much of a difference. You rarely fill tanks with Nitrogen. Its almost ALWAYS Compressed air. A compressed air tank can hold Nitrogen, but it can't handle CO2. It wasn't designed for it. And CO2 tanks shouldn't be filled with N2 or Compressed air.

Compressed air comes in a few sized tanks, which are all wider then CO2 tanks and generally bigger. They have two measurements, cubic inches and PSI. You'll often see something like 48/3000 or 88/5000. The first number is how many cubic inches of air the tank can hold. The second is PSI. A 68/3000 will give you the same amount of shots as a 48/4500 (approximately).

Compressed air is a gas and will always be a gas. Therefore its not affected by temperature. If you shot 3 shots with CO2, you might see a shot at 280 fps, at 276 fps and 258 fps in a row. With Compressed air, your pretty much shooting 280,280,280. Its all that more better. They coem in steel and in wrapped fiber (fibre for you damn Canadians )Wrapped fiber is lighter , stronger ,and more expensive. Steel is bulky and not as strong, but cheaper. COMPRESSED AIR DOES NOT HURT ANY MORE THEN CO2. That's a big misconception by people.

Also, call Compressed air by tis name. NOS, Nitrous, and Nitrous Oxide are all things that you can put into a car cylinder to make them burn harder and faster. They are not what you put in a paintball tank. Nitro, N2, Nitrogen, or Compressed air is. Know your names so you don't sound like a fool.

EDIT: An X-chamber works by forcing the air into small areas, then into a wide area. This changes the temp, and in turn the state of its matter.
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