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Old January 10th, 10:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Low pressure guns vs 850 psi guns

What are the advantages to paying more for a gun which takes lower pressure? Is it worth the extra money?

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Old January 11th, 07:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There is no advantage, other then they tend to be slightly more gentle with fragile paints.

It is a marketing gimmick invented by Smart Parts, and is generally discredited by everyone.

Most high-end guns are actually med-pressure, but "med-pressure" doesnt sound sexy I guess.

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Old January 11th, 11:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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ive noticed less kick and more shoots. but hp says it has none so i guess there are non.
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Old January 11th, 11:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ive noticed less kick and more shoots. but hp says it has none so i guess there are non.
Its TRUE that high-end guns tend to have less kick and more shots, but NOT because of the operating pressure. Its because the method of operation.

Blowbacks tend to have more kick because the hammer has to open the valve for BOTH the bolt AND hammer. High-end Ram-valves and Cockers only open the valve for the bolt. Thus, blowbacks have heavier hammers.

Also, the 100psi SHocker got about 600shots from a 20oz. THe 800psi F2 got around 1500 shots.

My point is that pressure doesnt really matter. You either have high volume/low pressure, or low volume/high pressure.

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Old January 11th, 12:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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oooo ok. yeah I wasnt trying to be a smart ass just so u know.
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Old January 11th, 05:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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in some cases low pressure guns are more efficient than high pressure guns. in other cases it is completely the opposite. but for example with the shocker, it isnt effecient just because it runs on 100 psi. there is a certain operating pressure that will give you the best effeciency, and it is different on every gun. so yeah like hp said don't buy a gun because it runs at 100 psi, its a marketing gimmick. you could have best effeciency at 700 psi or 200, but it is something you and your gun will have to find out for yourselves.
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Old January 12th, 06:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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doesnt it make it easier to shoot faster with low pressure...
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"The concept behind low pressure is that you use more air, at a lower pressure to get the ball to go to the same place. For instance- you want your buddy to move a few feet, you can either crank him as hard as you can so that he stumbles over there, or, you can give him a steady and firm push. Which one do you think is going to be lighter on him? Obviously, the second. "
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Old January 15th, 11:02 AM   #9 (permalink)
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hp lovecraft , where abouts in maine do you live ?, i live in rockland .
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Old January 15th, 12:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I like at the furthest spot from Rockland... LOL.

I live in Saco. I usually play at Rogue in Limerick. Fantastic field.

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well lo pressure guns have less kick right???
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well lo pressure guns have less kick right???
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Well, they could.

Markers that use lower pressure generally have lighter, more advanced internals than a low end blow-back would. So when you shoot it there is less weight moving around and less kick because of that.
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Darn I bought into the marketing gimmic. O well at least I didnt spend a lot of money making my gun have a lower pressure.
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Darn I bought into the marketing gimmic. O well at least I didnt spend a lot of money making my gun have a lower pressure.
Well, USUALLY during the LP conversion, your effeciency increases, as well as cold weather performance, and consistency as well. All good things.

It is NOT because of the LP, but a side effect of the process to balance the springs, hammers, flow, etc.

The IMPORTANT thing to realize is that pressure itself is meaningless. You either need high-flow, low-volume, or low-volume and high flow. But you can tune a gun to work well at particular pressures.

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well lo pressure guns have less kick right???
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Its TRUE that high-end guns tend to have less kick and more shots, but NOT because of the operating pressure. Its because the method of operation.
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