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January 11th, 07:45 PM
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lube and o-rings?
i have seen people say "on spyders, you just need to lube the o-rings and you're done"
uh...where is the o-ring? I thought they were on the Co2 tanks to prevent leaks...
also, I have an air tank, not Co2 and I am wondering if i need to do anything special to keep it good 
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January 11th, 07:58 PM
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The last air bender
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O-rings on spyders are on stock bolt(aluminum) striker, on some barrels to help keep it on tight, on the valve, velocity adjuster, and pretty much on every moving part.
And they do put them on co2 tanks to get a nice seal.
To keep your hpa tank in good condition, put a tank cover on it and a fill nipple, and try not to drop it and all that other common sense stuff.
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January 11th, 08:01 PM
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So you have an HPA tank. ?? or a CO2 tank.
What they are prolly talking about is your orings on your bolt or other parts of your gun not to familiar with spyders but putting a small amount of oil on your orings will keep your gun in good working condition. but dont forget to clean it up after a day of ballin
cocker16.
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January 11th, 08:16 PM
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The last air bender
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So you have an HPA tank. ?? or a CO2 tank.
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Originally Posted by Suicidal_Brick
also, I have an air tank, not Co2
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January 11th, 09:32 PM
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There are many orings inside your marker. The most common would be the 2 on the bolt and 1 on the striker. These are usually black and a drop or two of oil on each of them will keep them working well. Another common o-ring is located on your tank near the pin-valve. This is called a urethane (sp?) oring. You dont nessesarily need to oil this one, just remember you might need to replace it if it breaks, so keep around spares.
Besides the common sense parts of your HPA tank, assuming you havent used it yet make sure its the right output pressure for your marker. If your marker operates on a Low Pressure system make sure your HPA tank output is specific for low pressure, same with high pressure. If you have something adjustable like a 'cocker, you prob have an adjustable HPA tank... Assuming you have a spyder since you mentioned it, its probably low pressure so make sure that its all set before you screw up your marker.
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January 11th, 10:47 PM
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Along with that I'm pretty sure every now and then putting some oil in your ASA and firing shots off (with the barrel off of course, don't want oil in that) should help with oiling.
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January 12th, 07:31 AM
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it does. basicly just take out your bolt and oil those rings really well, take out your hammer and oil that one. then for the valve system put 5 drops in the asa and dry fire it(with the gun back together of course). is your air tank steel or carbon fiber?
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January 12th, 03:18 PM
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FNG question here, but what are the best kinds of oil and/or lube to use for the O-rings, especially firearms related oil?
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January 12th, 04:29 PM
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There are many oils specially designed for paintball only. You can pick this up at your proshop or online..
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January 12th, 05:21 PM
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i wouldnt recommend oiling through your asa
just take out your bolt assembly, and drop 2 drops of oil on your bolt orings and your striker oring. Rub the oil around with your finger. Then oil your vavle oring, and youre set.
and dont oil your tank oring
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January 13th, 10:25 AM
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Thanks, I was searching here and saw all kinds of references to Hoppe's oil, ATF, mineral oil, various PB oils, and it seems everyone conflicts on opinions except for using oil branded for PB use.
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January 13th, 11:44 AM
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i wouldnt recommend oiling through your asa
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I agree, unless your cupseal is leaking.
As for oil, the best I've found is simple ATF fluid. You can get a LIFETIME supply at wal-mart for about $1. It contains special chemicals so it doesnt harm o-rings. Some paintball guns companies actually RECOMMEND IT.
Gun Oil works great, JUST DO NOT USE "3-in-1" type oils, or any gun oil that says "cleans and protects".
Those contain solvents that will eat through your orings. This includes all "penetrating oils" (ie WD-40, liquid wrench, 3-in-1, etc).
I use ATF on all my blowbacks and pumps, but on my electros I use synthetic skate lube. Its thinner. Most "paintball oils" are just repackaged sythetic bike/skate lubes.
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January 13th, 11:50 AM
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Thanks Nick, the ATF makes sense to me due to the many, many seals in an A/T....
I see CLP is out, I have so many bottles of it in different sizes, but no big deal...I was wondering what the synthetic paintball lubes were, I figured they were repackaged lubes (and I was wondering what it was) and sold for a bit more...
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January 13th, 11:52 AM
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In regards to WD-40--it is really a displacement agent and solvent, hence Water Displaceing-40.....
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January 13th, 12:20 PM
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Yes, WD-40 was original designed to make electronics "water resistant". The solvents are water-soluble and doesnt conduct current. Whenever my jeep has to forge through some water, I give the engine electronics a good dose of "WD".
All "solvent based lubes" have that same property. However, that solvents also eat o-rings.
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January 13th, 06:31 PM
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to be even more precise it was designed for displacement of water on military missile systems. there is no reason why hoppes no.9 gun oil should not be used in your marker. it works just fine and is much much less expensive than "pb lubes". tippmann has included a tube of hoppes with all of their guns for quite some time now.
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January 13th, 06:50 PM
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Wow, a lifetime supply of oil for about a $1 at Walmart? Man I gotta buy some ATF oil... thanks
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January 21st, 09:37 AM
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Wow, a lifetime supply of oil for about a $1 at Walmart? Man I gotta buy some ATF oil... thanks
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It was closer to about $2, both for ATF+3 and Dexron/Mercon, but still is very cheap. It isn't an oil per se, but a fluid (auto trans fluid).
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January 21st, 11:02 AM
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I suppose ATF is best described as lubricating hydraulic fluid. It has the right viscosity, and won't harm orings for most paintguns. As I said, I've been using it for a long time now.
BUT, probobly won't recommend it for high-end guns with sensitive solenoid valves. Best to use whatever the factory recommends, so if something breaks they won't say "warranty is voided because you used the wrong lube".
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January 22nd, 06:16 PM
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So Regular ATF huh? what about pneumatic oil? hope i spelled it right! 
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