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**Parmizan** · January 17th, 05:27 PM

Of course you guys have seen hundreds of threads almost identical in this section and yes i have read a few but i wish to ask for my self..... I am from UK and have played PB before, but just for fun, i now wish to buy a gun of my own and get into playing with friends... what is you opinion on this deal/gun

http://www.thepaintballshop.co.uk/infernoheat.html

Bearing in mind i know NOTHING about the guns its range, can you guys give me a rough idea of how this gun will handle... how far and how much power it will shoot... ANYTHING atall you can tell me about this.

please feel free to make reccommendations, but the price range i am after is £100-£200.

Thanks

**SupahFly21** · January 17th, 05:33 PM

how much US dollars is that?

the link you posted to that gun i have never heard of before. it looks like a good marker but you can probably get better. i suggest getting a gun from a bigger company such as kingman spyder.
a good starting gun is a spyder imagine. its cheap and it'll get you the speed your looking for.

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how far and how much power will it shoot...

all guns can shoot the same basically. its not the gun that gives it the power its the air and most guns use the same air. [two kinds: CO2 or HPA]
spyder imagine can work with both kinda of air.
the spyder imagine is a great starting marker because it's able to be upgraded in so many ways, and its basic, easy to handle, and a good speed for newer players.

**Parmizan** · January 17th, 05:42 PM

God i love active forums... thats cool i'll check it out now, any more advice from people would be much apreciated... plus this thread is another source for other newb's

**Angered Fists** · January 17th, 05:47 PM

It's a bit over $300 like $305-310. It doesn't look like your best option in that price range. I would recommend the tippman over that gun, but everything appears to be overpriced. Tippman 98 is about $129 american, it is listed on that site for £129, big difference.

**SupahFly21** · January 17th, 05:48 PM

http://xpaintball.com/spim04.html heres a link for a spyder imagine.

but if you have closer to the 300 US dollar price range theres a number of better guns available. such as a BKO.
a bko is much better than a spyder in a lot of reasons. its faster, more reliable, and its a good marker in the mid-level gun range
they sell them on most paintball sites but xpaintball doesnt have them

**Parmizan** · January 17th, 05:58 PM

So this Imagine gun has speed, good for its price... is it heavy duty, can take alot of crap basically... anti corrosion and not just gonna break if i drop it?

**SupahFly21** · January 17th, 06:01 PM

well, its not like a tippmann. a tippmann can take a beating.

a spyder itsnt really heavy duty, its kinda small, but small is good cause its good for snapshooting and moving quickly. its built stronger than other markers, but its not the strongest. i suggest a BKO cause they are probably easier to handle [better quality]

**BrightSpot** · January 17th, 06:14 PM

that is a rip off, dont get it

**Zynister** · January 17th, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Parmizan

So this Imagine gun has speed, good for its price... is it heavy duty, can take alot of crap basically... anti corrosion and not just gonna break if i drop it?

Spyders are strong guns, dropping it will do nothing except maybe a scratch. They are also very low maitanence, and can last an extremely long time. Lube them every once and a while and it will last you a long time, and have no problems.

**PaintBallBob** · January 17th, 07:39 PM

i would suggest getting a used Impulse. Its a very simple design and easy to mantain. You can easily find one for $372(Try to get one that has eyes/vision).

Alpha · January 17th, 07:54 PM

1. Don't post links here other then xpaintball

2. Holy **** angered your sig is ginormous

3. Even when I rip into your post I should still do my best to help further the conversation

**PaintBallBob** · January 17th, 07:58 PM

he took the other pic out too

**SupahFly21** · January 17th, 08:05 PM

dang, maybe he should downsize the pics. lol

**Hcker** · January 17th, 08:08 PM

So, I guess your finished you cowering in the fetal position Alpha?

But yeah, most definitely listen to everything that supahfly said. If you have the spare money, and looking for a better quality gun then the Imagine, then get the BKO.

Although, even if you do have the spare money for the BKO, you will also need some more cash to buy an HPA tank. The reason for this is CO2 does not work on a BKO, as you will easily blow the solenoid. If your still going to get the BKO, after knowing that you have to buy an HPA tank, an HPA Tank Company that i highly reccomend you to is Crossfire.

If you have any other questions, just holla back youngin.

-Hcker-

**SupahFly21** · January 17th, 08:14 PM

good HPA tanks are either Crossfire or Pure Energy [PMI] they both make great quality tanks.
you'll also need a fast hopper, such as a Halo B, Empire Reloader B, or a Viewloader Evo

**Sparky101** · January 18th, 07:26 AM

go for a talon!!! only $15

**Parmizan** · January 18th, 11:27 AM

hmmm i checked out the BKO and i liked it, but the air system sounds like a bit of a chore, the spyder imagine looks good, but it got a few bad reviews, like plastic breaks and stuff.... i like the look of this gun alot...

http://www.holmbushpaintballshop.co....f699c613ad781a

Go on abuse this gun, i want reasons why i shouldn't buy this one.

Edit: I was also wondering, is this gun electrical, as you lot said i dont want one as my first gun, i was pretty sure it wasn't but a review said it was...

???????

**Parmizan** · January 18th, 03:29 PM

jesus i give up, markers are soo hard too choose from!!! I looked at the Kingman Spyder TL-X and its really cheap... but looks and sounds good, there must be a reason why its cheap. I'm completely stuck with what to buy, theres soo much vary in price and markers.!!!! HELP I wana spend around 150 and get the BEST marker i can for around that price.

**SupahFly21** · January 18th, 06:56 PM

okay so the piranha isnt good. i dont like pirahnas. that ones electtric and its okay but spyders are better IMO.

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Edit: I was also wondering, is this gun electrical, as you lot said i dont want one as my first gun, i was pretty sure it wasn't but a review said it was...

you WANT electric. the mechanical markers arent very good at all. the electric ones you pull the trigger maybe a few millimeters, on the mechs you pull it maybe even an inch.

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I looked at the Kingman Spyder TL-X and its really cheap... but looks and sounds good, there must be a reason why its cheap

the reason why that gun is so low in price is because that gun isnt electric. its a mech. the mech spyders are SOooo much slower than the electro ones.

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HELP I wana spend around 150 and get the BEST marker i can for around that price.

the best gun in that price range is easily the BKO as i have showed you. although with the BKO you will need HPA [compressed air] rather than CO2 as i have mentioned.

the spyder imagine on the other hand, can work with compressed air, or CO2. if you will have no money after getting a BKO and will need to get HPA, then i suggest getting a spyder imagine. or a good choice would be to do yard work for your neighbors or something to get money for the HPA tank. thats what i would do, because a spyder just isnt nearly as good as a BKO by far. the price difference in each is probably aroound 150-200dollars.

the spyder imagine can get up to 14 balls a second stock. and the BKO can get up to 18 or so. but the main different is quality and the internals.
a bko isnt like an imagine because it doesnt need to be cocked. you just plug air into it and it flies. you wouldnt have to worry about having problems with your bolt uncocking and other stuff like that. also the BKO has almost NO kickback, meaning it'll be easier to hold steadily accurate.

**Parmizan** · January 18th, 07:12 PM

I shall haven another look at both those markers, that helped alot, i was convinced mech was the way to go as a newb, just to get used to the idea of aiming and make it more of a challange and more 'real'. In this time me and a friend have also been looking at the Spyder Rodeo... It has good reviews and I was kinda looking forward to getting it but... its Mech.... is this really such a bad thing????