[Lionheart]

Go with what you want I know the SIM-15 will end up being a good choice for you. I have never talked to anyone who hasnt been satisfied with it. If you need any help at all just go into the ariakon forums and ask, i know for a fact youll get all you problems solved. btw go to the forums on the ariakon web site.

[TrashTrampoline]

Originally Posted by Backman_alek

umm get a tippy much better

tippy

That is a Tippman, BT=Ben Tippman
You cant go wrong with a Tippman as a starter because they seldom go down and when your ready to purchase a more expensive marker they make a great backup because they never break. Thats why fields use them a rentals.

[theunforgiven]

i would not get a sim gun.

a sim gun uses C02 cartiges that are good for about 20 shots i believe. they also use paint clips which hold about 20 paintballs. for this reason, you will not be able to keep up with any gun there.

so, i would definately reccomend a tippmann. if the money is right i would go with an a5 (http://xpaintball.com/tipa5paingun.html) which will require a:
-mask
-20 oz. tank (my preference in size, you will find 20 will be best as well)
-pods

if that seems like too much money with all of that stuff, then go for the 98 custom (http://xpaintball.com/model98custom.html)

good luck with your choices.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by Angered Fists

I would suggest the imagine package over the Tippmann package. The Imagine is capable of doing anything the Tippmann is and much more, making it more versatile. It will perform just as well in the woods as the Tippmann, and will be much more effective than the Tippmann in speedball. Get yourselves some Imagine packages and you'll be doing fine.

Saying Tippmanns havemore upgrades is like saying "Oh dude, the M4A1 is great becuase it has so many upgrades". WEll.. So do piranhas and spyders!

Listen to Angered Fists, he is smart, and knows what he's talking about.

Any paintball marker that has an M16 rail and foregrip is typiclly a piece of crap. I'd suggest a BT-16 over a tippmann. The BT-16 is a tippmann A5 without the cyclone feed, and the cyclone feed will hold your marker back a lot. The cycloen feed is slow. It will not shoot as fast as you can pull. It will shoot 13.6 balls per second. Compared to the stacked tube blowback design, which can easily hit 20+BPS.


Now before you all say "But Alpha, spyders can't hit 20bps!", look at what a timmy is. ALl a timmy is is a super spyder.

If your worried about upgrades, no fear. With a tippmann, you have to get extra hose and change the port in which the air comes out of, all internally. For a newbie player this can be tedious. With a spyder, you take off the old foregrip, and put on teh new one, and reattach your hose.

Tippmanns have the same barrels, hoppers, bolts, and can take the same air systems as spyders. The only thing you can put on tippies that you can't put on a spyder is maybe the RT, and e-bolt. And for the price of either of those, you cn madly upgrade your spyder with an ESP frame.

Tippmanns are great markers, however the statement that they have more upgrades is BS. I can get a crappy looking milsim kit for a spyder too! I've seen them. Stocks and foregrips,a nd mag kits.

IF you want milsim, the ONLY marker that you should even consider is a www.rap4.com. These are the only true milsim markers that are made to scale, not made for newbs.

[DJS2]

I dont think a timmy is at all like a spyder. Maybe the body, but thats about it. The way it functions is pretty different with the barbs and all.

Oh and a spyder cant hit 20bps without an aftermarket board.

Spyder or tippy, just go to the store and feel them out. I dont like 98cs because they are too long and i dont like the trigger much and a few other things. Im more of a spyder person myself but its all just preference.. if ur into the sport ur prolly going to be selling it in a month or so and getting something better/faster anyways. btw if ur gonna get an imagine get a 12v revvy. dont get an egg and dont use a gravity feed hopper.

[OnTheMatBaller]

Originally Posted by Trigger-Happy

yeah id get a tippy, BTW BTs are tippmanns they stand for ben tippmann. heh im so smart

if u wanna get serious buy the cocker, butt makesure u learn about them first, u can mess those things up horribly, but if u operate em right, there perfect

Actually...that could be desputed. As on the site it Says Battle Tested.

anyway, just get a 98c, and buy a milsim kit for it.

[Alpha]

milsim kits are horrible looking, adn poor quality. Period. You own an AR-15, right? I've never owned one, and have only shot an M16A2/M203 twice, and I can pick out at least 10 horrible disgusting mistakes these mass producing market muching markers have.

The stock, the barrel, teh reciever, the trigger, the rail, the handguard, almost all are horribly recreated. they reseemble something real, but its most certainly not realistic or simulation.