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***NYY*** · September 12th, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Headley

Your vote doesn't count for anything. If you think the people of this country pick their leaders, then you must also believe in Santa. Take a stand America is right, take a stand and take back your goverment.

- Brian

Then who picks them? Robots?

**Gabriot** · September 12th, 10:17 PM

Joe Biden looks good at first glance. But then again it is just a first glance

**meatwadttm** · September 12th, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NYY

Then who picks them? Robots?

No, 538 members of the Electoral college who are not required to vote in accordinance with the popular vote.

Also, the winner takes all **** is ****ed up to.

Ok, mississippi has 8 votes, 2 senators, 6 reps, 8 total votes

California has like 55, well if 28 electors vote for hillary in cali, all 55 votes go to hillary, when the other 27 can be combined with mississippi's 8 votes to go against it.

So basically, if u did away with the winner take all system, the voting would probably change drastically. Because instead of candidate a getting 55 votes, candidate a would only get 28 vs the remaining 27 votes for candidate b combined with mississippi's 8, meaning 28<35 so the other candidate b would actually be winning.
But the electoral college system is just plain out ****ed up.

**ComradeMolyneux** · September 12th, 10:55 PM

The cantidates should just go on Fear Factor, winner takes all.

***NYY*** · September 12th, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by meatwadttm

No, 538 members of the Electoral college who are not required to vote in accordinance with the popular vote.

Also, the winner takes all **** is ****ed up to.

Ok, mississippi has 8 votes, 2 senators, 6 reps, 8 total votes

California has like 55, well if 28 electors vote for hillary in cali, all 55 votes go to hillary, when the other 27 can be combined with mississippi's 8 votes to go against it.

So basically, if u did away with the winner take all system, the voting would probably change drastically. Because instead of candidate a getting 55 votes, candidate a would only get 28 vs the remaining 27 votes for candidate b combined with mississippi's 8, meaning 28<35 so the other candidate b would actually be winning.
But the electoral college system is just plain out ****ed up.

Don't you see the flaw in your argument though? Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but with no EC, each election would be decided by California and New York.

**OhRLY** · September 12th, 11:49 PM

I'm an illegal immigrant, I can't vote.

**TonyD** · September 13th, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by burningcow422

not to sound like an asshole/sexist/anything really, but i truely believe if she gets elected somebody is going to at least attempt to kill her.

I actually remember saying this (maybe not on this board) more than a year ago. There are a lot of crazy people that will not accept a woman president. Hell, I'm sure the same ones wouldn't be too hot over a black guy, either.

When a Democrat wins this election, I think it's going to start some crazy **** in America.

If a Republican somehow wins, we'll just continue the slow slide we're on.

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Originally Posted by NYY

AKA Hilary Clinton.

AKA anyone.

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Originally Posted by NYY

Don't you see the flaw in your argument though? Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but with no EC, each election would be decided by California and New York.

You've got a point.

Let's do away with the whole thing and start over.

**burningcow422** · September 13th, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyD

Hell, I'm sure the same ones wouldn't be too hot over a black guy, either.

i remember reading Colin Powell's wife told him not to run for president for the sole reason of her wanting him to keep being alive.

crazy people out there. and they ARE there.

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · September 13th, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Spudchucker

he is againts making laws for everything. the FDA= a whole bunch of laws

FYI, a positive side affect of this is that he wants to legalize it

You dont think we should have laws governing the quality of our food?

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Originally Posted by Gabriot

I really hope you're being sarcastic

No. I'm not. Would you like there to be no inspection of the food you're eating?

***NYY*** · September 13th, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyD

Let's do away with the whole thing and start over.

No one really had a problem with the EC until 2000... It's actually a very effective system. When was the last time we had massive protests over election results? Never would be the right answer.

Lord Headley · September 13th, 10:03 AM

Secret Societies

The most common of which are Skull & Bones and The Stone Masons. Almost every single president has been a confirmed member of one or the other, or both. Just because someone isn’t confirmed however doesn’t mean that they aren’t a member.

Also remember that members of these societies are CEO’s of big companies, big companies that get rich off war, oil, and pharmaceutical needs. This country was founded by Masons, and it will always be ran by Masons.

- Brian

**Twistedpain** · September 13th, 10:05 AM

i'm moving to canada.

Lord Headley · September 13th, 10:20 AM

That's where i would move, i like it up there. Although Mexico has it's fun!

***Pierced*** · September 13th, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Headley

Secret Societies

The most common of which are Skull & Bones and The Stone Masons. Almost every single president has been a confirmed member of one or the other, or both. Just because someone isn’t confirmed however doesn’t mean that they aren’t a member.

Also remember that members of these societies are CEO’s of big companies, big companies that get rich off war, oil, and pharmaceutical needs. This country was founded by Masons, and it will always be ran by Masons.

- Brian

I did some reading into Skull&Bones a few years ago, it's some wierd ****.

**big_balla** · September 13th, 12:33 PM

Clinton is a member of the Illuminati. No lies, I read it.

Lord Headley · September 13th, 01:33 PM

It is isn't it. That's the truth though, our government officials are members of these societies. Most high ranking people anywhere are. Every male in my mother's family except for myself and my brother Chris are members of the masons. They're all promoted in their jobs before other people that aren't members and they've always seemed to have success in everything.

I refuse to kiss ass, so i would never join one of these things. Yea, you get **** loads of money, but you trade you sense of worth in for it. No one is better than me, and i am no better than anyone else. Everyone has their talents which make up for their short comings. That's what makes us who were are.

- Brian

**meatwadttm** · September 13th, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NYY

Don't you see the flaw in your argument though? Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but with no EC, each election would be decided by California and New York.

Okay, I got what ur saying, but if we could regulate the E.C. TO where they HAVE to vote in accordinance with the popular vote and eliminate the vote requirement *Like what, 270 or so?*, just use who ever gets the most votes, and eliminate the winner take all system, 3rd party candidate voters wouldn't have to change their votes.

I dunno, there needs to be serious reforms in every aspect of government.

**Jinjiro** · September 13th, 02:48 PM

I believe that almost all of the time the EC members do in fact go with the popular vote.

Edit: This thread has made me re-consider a career in politics. I know a state senator (father of a friend of mine), so perhaps I will ask him how he got into politics.

-Jin

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · September 13th, 11:38 PM

I never understood big secret societies that anyone can join (like the freemasons). I mean, if anyone can be a member and everyone gets better treatment than the people who aren't members. When the entire society catches on and tries to be members it'll be as if there was no secret society.