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***Wes Himself*** · December 13th, 12:27 AM

hes trying to legalize the "reefer"

**toXic** · December 13th, 12:32 AM

Which is why college people and hippy's love him, and the rest of the country doesn't.

ShinryuBaller · December 13th, 12:32 AM

lol finally! lol i dont have to hear my friends complain about getting caught. I've never tried any drug, but i think any drug should be made legal, if people wanna put that crap in their bodies, let them, they can die the way they choose to i believe. Also, it may also decrease the rate of usage, they are no longer hard to get and as exciting, so it may decrease, or increase. But yea, back on topic, I like his speach and like what he thinks, i didnt know he wanted to legalize weed tho, lol thats kinda funny.

**PizzaMiLiTiA** · December 13th, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinryuBaller

I've never tried any drug, but i think any drug should be made legal, if people wanna put that crap in their bodies, let them, they can die the way they choose to i believe. Also, it may also decrease the rate of usage, they are no longer hard to get and as exciting, so it may decrease, or increase.

That's about the least well-formed and ambiguous response I've ever read on this forum. Twelve-year-old kids are the only people who smoke pot for the "excitement", and legalizing it isn't going to really affect this because chances are that their parents will oppose their use of it. But pot isn't really the problem. No one dies from smoking marijuana, yet the government (via your paycheck) spends billions of dollars each year combating it and punishing those who use it. That's what really needs to be changed.

The drugs in our society that cause problems are drugs like methamphetamine and heroin. Many times, after the first use, your body is physically addicted to them. They drain your money and your life. There are multiple ways to die from the use of these drugs. You can overdose and paralyze or kill yourself. You can get AIDS from the use of used needles while taking the drugs. You can aspirate while passed out and die. You can go into withdrawals so strong that they can kill you, and if they don't, you'll probably be wanting to kill yourself. And the tragic aspect is that more and more people become addicted every single day, despite the government crackdowns, anti-drug education, government-funded rehabilitation programs, and stringent punishments for the possession and use of substances. Is the growth of the use of heroin and meth, drugs which ruin lives every single day, something that we as a nation need to loosen our grip on?

**the_real_kaz** · December 13th, 01:02 AM

Huckabee > Paul All day.

ShinryuBaller · December 13th, 01:03 AM

i honestly didnt know any of that about those drugs, none of my friends do those drugs, most only drink, but no one i know does those so i didnt know what to really expect of them wow...

ShinryuBaller · December 13th, 01:04 AM

Ron Paul owns man

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · December 13th, 01:05 AM

Ron Paul has so much that I agree with, but unfortunately there are certain things (like getting rid of the FDA) that I simply can't approve of. His views on Iraq, legalizing marijuana, flat taxes, less government, etc. are pretty good. And he's very consistent in what he believes.

edit- Huckabee has a sketchy past, with the whole quarantining AIDS patients and letting out that rapist/murderer

ShinryuBaller · December 13th, 01:11 AM

i agree, just because the aids virus is deadly doesnt mean tha people should be locked away for it, it isnt just or moral. Bad ideas, harsh and crewl ideas. Ron Paul's ideas have me going strongly towards him, although i am an independant, not a rep.

**ComradeMolyneux** · December 13th, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by toXic

Well, I am either a Huckabee or a Edwards person. I just know I wouldnt vote for Hillary, Obama, Gulliani, Paul...

Huckabee is taking a lot of heat right now though, its not looking too good for him.

Edwards is a racist and Huckabee a religious zealot. I would like neither to be the leader of the US Executive branch.

**toXic** · December 13th, 10:35 PM

Name another top five candidate that would be a better choice and why. Hmmm, its not looking to good for America.

Alpha · December 22nd, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by toXic

Which is why college people and hippy's love him, and the rest of the country doesn't.

No, he has a big INTERNET following.

His views on cannabis are just one of many that I support.

His whole idea is that the government has become too big. ITs too involved in the rest of the world, and **** is going to hit the fan soon.

He uses the constitution as a basis for whether he supports something. If it is unconstitutional, he does not support it.

Not to mention this guy holds a doctorate. Leaders should be well educated. They should have doctorates.

Paul quit politics to go back to delivering babies, then came back.

I think he's the only candidate that isn't a politician. which is what I like.

Alpha · December 22nd, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PizzaMiLiTiA

That's about the least well-formed and ambiguous response I've ever read on this forum.

Look at alcohol. Same thing. It was once illegal. When they legalized and regulated it, they were able to tax it, AND they were able to take it out of the hands of kids.

Go to a middle school and see how easily the kids can get booze... Now see how easily they can get pot. Pot dealer's don't check ID's. Legalizing it and putting it behind the counter away from kids would make it just as hard to get alcohol as it is pot.

**toXic** · December 22nd, 10:46 AM

Yea I knew his main followers were the internet people.

I don't know, as I listen to him more, he doesn't seem that bad.

ShinryuBaller · December 22nd, 12:28 PM

I like him, he has my vote hands down for next yr.

**big_balla** · December 22nd, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Look at alcohol. Same thing. It was once illegal. When they legalized and regulated it, they were able to tax it, AND they were able to take it out of the hands of kids.

Go to a middle school and see how easily the kids can get booze... Now see how easily they can get pot. Pot dealer's don't check ID's. Legalizing it and putting it behind the counter away from kids would make it just as hard to get alcohol as it is pot.

Very good argument. I watched this video a while back that basically said buds should be legalized for the reasons you said. I tried to find it but to no avail.

ShinryuBaller · December 22nd, 01:07 PM

it is pretty logical, and he also wants to find a different fuel sorce like alcohol (ethanol) It doesnt have to be just corn either, any biodegradable object can be turned into ethanol, so if he really does this, fuel will be cheaper. also, alcohol burns faster than gasoline, reducing MPG, but increasing horse power. If the fuel is cheaper anyway, it should be fine.

***NYY*** · December 23rd, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ShinryuBaller

it is pretty logical, and he also wants to find a different fuel sorce like alcohol (ethanol) It doesnt have to be just corn either, any biodegradable object can be turned into ethanol, so if he really does this, fuel will be cheaper. also, alcohol burns faster than gasoline, reducing MPG, but increasing horse power. If the fuel is cheaper anyway, it should be fine.

It's not that simple. The point is to find alternative fuel sources. It's not an alternative if it costs twice as much. I'm sure they can find a way to run a car by burning Noam Chomsky books, but it wouldn't be cheap (unfortunately).

ShinryuBaller · December 23rd, 04:12 PM

also, hydrogen has already been developed and working, it is every unknown, but it runs on water, breaking apart the oxygen and hydrogen molecules and make sthe bi product...water, it cycles the water back through and re-uses itself. Very expensive as it is now.
Alcohol is easy to turn into fuel. biodegradable stuff makes alcohol cheaply and will be easy to produce, unlike oil. Alcohol would be much less, as of now, i know people who have done stuff to their engines to burn ethanol and make their own. It costs them 5 cents for 10 gallons I think is what he said.

**toXic** · December 23rd, 04:37 PM

The hydrogen water thing shouldn't be that expensive. Its not that hard of a process. My brother did a set up with crap sitting around the house. Note- he didn't actually run a car by it, just produce the gas.