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Old January 11th, 09:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Also, isn't 80% of the US supposedly Christians? So why not do what the majority wants?
It doesn't matter what percentage are Christians or even religious in anyway, America has one of the lowest percentages of eligible voter participation on the planet.

I can't stand Huckabee because he's been a hypocrite in saying that he doesn't want to make religion an issue yet he runs as the "Christian Conservative". Not to mention he has attacked Romney (his religion, mainly) and doesn't shut down the anti-Mormon argument when people ask him about it just so people have an excuse to keep it going ("mom didn't say no").

The only people in the race that are serious contenders for the nomination are Hillary, Obama, Romney and McCain. Guiliani doesn't have support outside of New York and California- not enough to get the nomination. All the other Republicans are totally off the radar, and Huckabee isn't a viable national candidate because he's not liberal enough for the non-Christian Evangelical voters (which are not as numerous percentage-wise as they were in Iowa).

When it comes to politics, you choose the most conservative Democrat and the most liberal Republican you can- that way you get the people who vote across straight party lines (aka Republicans with no alternative will still vote for McCain) and you don't alienate the liberals in your own party so they cross over and vote for the other team.

Obama is a good speaker, but hasn't even completed a Senate term yet, IMO he's being hyped up just because he's younger, a minority, a good speaker and not as extreme as Hillary. If he was white no one would care.

Hillary is strong, confident, has much more experience and, even with how much I dislike her and disagree with everything she says, I say she's the stronger candidate. With good reason the GOP is scared of her and would rather deal with Obama, which would be easier to topple over.

Romney is LDS, and unfortunately someone that is moral and upright is still not good enough in the eyes of many in this country because of his religion. He's changed his position more than a few times, and people want candidates who don't ever adjust their way of thinking. As long as people keep preaching politics over the pulpit he doesn't stand a chance.

McCain is the one with the strongest moral compass and is respected greatly for that, but his age (late 70's) and liberal positions on a few issues are disliked by some Reps. He's prob gonna get the nomination IMO.
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Old January 11th, 10:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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When did Huckabee attack Romneys faith? I recall him saying something about them believing jesus and the devil are brothers, but that isn't an attack at all. Oh wait, your a Mormon aren't you? No wonder you don't like huckabee...

As for the hypocrite part, well. I guess he will fit in with all of the other politicians. Such as Obama, who said he was a Christian in one of the debates(I think ALL of the candidates classify themselves as christians) yet when he was sworn in to office, he placed his hand on the Koran, not the Bible.(this is what I heard today, need to check to make sure though)

But, I would gladly vote for Edwards or McCain. Just not the three big democrats Clinton, Obama and Guiliani.(yes I know Gman is a republican, but he might as well be a democrat)
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Old January 12th, 03:25 AM   #23 (permalink)
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McCainiac.

He's the biggest badass ever, and the only Republican with the potential to beat Hillary (I'll look for the poll).
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Old January 13th, 12:46 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Yeah I'm LDS so I've paid particular attention to what the candidates are saying about Romney's faith. Like how McCain's mother called us a few things and got scolded by Senator McCain for those comments.

I don't think Huckabee has any right, regardless of his scholarly achievements as a pastor, to state what anyone else believes apart from his own denomination. If he was the man of religious principle that he says he is, he would've told people to shut up and not bring up anything like this up again. But he didn't. He dealt with that last TV ad in Iowa the same way- "I know I shouldn't show/do it, but I will anyway".
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Old January 13th, 03:38 PM   #25 (permalink)
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cantidates and dali lama

to all ::::::::::::::::::::::::::

yes; i do agree that mcain is the best republican who can beat hillary; BUT, why assume that the democrats shall choose hillary. and to be clear about it, i believe that mccain would be the best of any of them to be president. in fact; if mccain had been the president these past eight years, most of the negative things about america would have not developed.

BUT

i have one very important issue to examine. it is the problem of the dali lama. it is nonesense that the american congress may award a gold medal to this poor person who was castrated as a child. ?why do none of the senators want to investigate this tibetian buddist castration cult? this dali person was catrated as a boy. ?why is that not recognized as a form of child abuse?

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Old January 13th, 03:46 PM   #26 (permalink)
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As for the hypocrite part, well. I guess he will fit in with all of the other politicians. Such as Obama, who said he was a Christian in one of the debates(I think ALL of the candidates classify themselves as christians) yet when he was sworn in to office, he placed his hand on the Koran, not the Bible.(this is what I heard today, need to check to make sure though)


I'm betting you're also one of the people who believed the emails going around that said he went to a madrassa.
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Old January 13th, 05:58 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Actually no. I haven't seen any of this email you are talking about. Post it up though to enlighten us.

And to Duo, he never stated that that is what mormons believe. Honestly, I have heard that way before huckabee ever though about being president. As for him keep talking about his religious views and stuff, if that is all he is being asked about, that is what you are going to hear.

But anyway, Yep. Had't heard that about McCain. I realize it would have been funny though since his mother must be what, 100? lol
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