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**Gangsta_Redneck** · June 10th, 08:08 PM

neither of them will do 2 terms. i dont think. And obama or w/e i dont think will last 1 term without being killed if he is elected.

**Gangsta_Redneck** · June 10th, 08:15 PM

**theunforgiven** · June 10th, 09:02 PM

a select group of you guys truly are rednecks...

**big_balla** · June 10th, 10:18 PM

If he's smart, he'd take Clinton as VP because the neo-nazi's wouldn't want a woman to be president.

First double presidential assassination in history?

**kenny_1491** · June 10th, 11:32 PM

Lol, that would be down in the history books for sure.

**bobide** · June 11th, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by big_balla

If he's smart, he'd take Clinton as VP because the neo-nazi's wouldn't want a woman to be president.

First double presidential assassination in history?

He needs someone more conservative voters can identify with. Somebody who can swing the bible belt. More importantly though he needs someone with a lot of experience.

**olddfatbulldog** · June 17th, 12:53 AM

I (sadly) think that Obama will win in November, and we'll be looking at another Carter.

The recession has only begun.

Johnson2008 · July 8th, 03:04 AM

I don´t really matter who get the president so long they do it better then bush did thats my thinking.

**toXic** · July 8th, 07:12 AM

Wait a few years, Bush will be known as a good president. Why? its the truth. He wasn't/isn't that bad.

***NYY*** · July 8th, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by toXic

Wait a few years, Bush will be known as a good president. Why? its the truth. He wasn't/isn't that bad.

It's the truth. Ever since the surge, everyone shut up about Iraq. Why? Because we've been having huge successes there, and are driving Al Qaeda to extinction. And Iraq was really the only thing most people had against bush. The economy isn't doing well, but that isn't Bush's fault at all. He drove up the deficit, but he wasn't the first president to do so.

**ComradeMolyneux** · July 8th, 08:54 PM

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It's the truth. Ever since the surge, everyone shut up about Iraq. Why? Because we've been having huge successes there, and are driving Al Qaeda to extinction. And Iraq was really the only thing most people had against bush. The economy isn't doing well, but that isn't Bush's fault at all. He drove up the deficit, but he wasn't the first president to do so.

Huge successes? More like sustained moderate successes.

Al Qaeda to extinction? More like re-grouping in Pakistan.

Only thing against Bush? I still remember him playing dumb during California's energy crisis. That and there's a lot of other things I can thing of: Appointment of his cronies, no-bid contracts, etc.

He drove up the deficit? Yes, which would be okay if he were a democrat because that's what they're supposed to do. Whatever happened to fiscal conservative and small government Republicans? Oh yea, they got the boot one those moron Super-Christians took office. "Say hi to Sam Brownback next time you see him."

**sNoW PIrAnHa** · July 8th, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ComradeMolyneux

Huge successes? More like sustained moderate successes.

Al Qaeda to extinction? More like re-grouping in Pakistan.

Only thing against Bush? I still remember him playing dumb during California's energy crisis. That and there's a lot of other things I can thing of: Appointment of his cronies, no-bid contracts, etc.

He drove up the deficit? Yes, which would be okay if he were a democrat because that's what they're supposed to do. Whatever happened to fiscal conservative and small government Republicans? Oh yea, they got the boot one those moron Super-Christians took office. "Say high to Sam Brownback next time you see him."

Damn, you republican communists make it so hard to divide our political beliefs into "liberal" and "conservative".

Obama is pissing me off. Moveon goes and supports him over Clinton and he goes and backstabs them and calls them unpatriotic. I was never a huge fan but he really is just another politician wading waist deep in through their own aurally ejected bull****. One thing he has going for him is that, as far as first ladies go, his would be a quite easy on the eyes.

**ComradeMolyneux** · July 8th, 09:20 PM

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It would make me like the ticket better, but personally not enough to vote for Obama.

I'm predicting an Obama/Webb ticket and a McCain/Jindal ticket.

***NYY*** · July 9th, 05:36 PM

Hey I'm with you. I want elected conservatives to act like conservatives. But I think Bush justified his deficit by saying that Reagan drove up the deficit too. And history will look at it the same way.

I'm not saying Bush was an amazing president, he definitely made a lot of mistakes. But I honestly think that history will treat him very well.

**bobide** · July 9th, 06:02 PM

I don't think it's possible to come out of 2 national disasters and a war without some major sucking it up.

**ComradeMolyneux** · July 10th, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

Damn, you republican communists make it so hard to divide our political beliefs into "liberal" and "conservative".

Obama is pissing me off. Moveon goes and supports him over Clinton and he goes and backstabs them and calls them unpatriotic. I was never a huge fan but he really is just another politician wading waist deep in through their own aurally ejected bull****. One thing he has going for him is that, as far as first ladies go, his would be a quite easy on the eyes.

Moveon will be fan boys regardless. Obama is fighting for the middle, and to be honest, the stuff getting published in the news is very good for Obama right now. (Meanwhile, McCain's been moving to the right, which is going to be wholly counter-productive to his campaign (IMO).

Let's get some other guesses as to who the pres/vp tickets will be. I've posted mine but I'd like to see some others.

**ComradeMolyneux** · July 10th, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NYY

Hey I'm with you. I want elected conservatives to act like conservatives. But I think Bush justified his deficit by saying that Reagan drove up the deficit too. And history will look at it the same way.

I'm not saying Bush was an amazing president, he definitely made a lot of mistakes. But I honestly think that history will treat him very well.

I don't think so, there's a lot of haze over his presidency from it's inception. I think he'll be about a John Quincy Adams level president (if not lower).

**toXic** · July 10th, 07:36 AM

McCain/Romney... Obama/Bill clinton

**dhill0413** · July 11th, 11:29 AM

Obama will destroy the middle class.

And who knows what he'll do with Iraq, hes changed his mind on that how many times?

He is really too inexperienced. While I don't know if McCain is the greatest candidate ever, I don't think he'll do anywhere as terribly as Obama can(and very may well).

Food for thought:

"Cheri Jacobus, who is a brilliant woman, a Republican strategerist, she lives in Washington, she's worked on Capitol Hill, posted a little blurb: 'Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days?' Not much. ...how many days experience, from the time he's inaugurated in the Senate, sworn in, until he announced his presidential exploratory committee, how many actual days of work experience in the Senate for Barack Obama?...Educated guess 150. It's 143.

"After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days -- I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that. In contrast, John McCain's 26 years in Congress, 22 years of military service including 1,966 days in captivity as a POW in Hanoi now seem more impressive than ever." So there you go, 143 days. So this is the key. All of these so-called flip-flops, all these changes in position, they are due to his inexperience. His inexperience and his incompetence lead him to make goofs, to lie, to flounder around." -- Rush Limbaugh

**ComradeMolyneux** · July 11th, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dhill0413

Obama will destroy the middle class.

And who knows what he'll do with Iraq, hes changed his mind on that how many times?

He is really too inexperienced. While I don't know if McCain is the greatest candidate ever, I don't think he'll do anywhere as terribly as Obama can(and very may well).

Food for thought:

"Cheri Jacobus, who is a brilliant woman, a Republican strategerist, she lives in Washington, she's worked on Capitol Hill, posted a little blurb: 'Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days?' Not much. ...how many days experience, from the time he's inaugurated in the Senate, sworn in, until he announced his presidential exploratory committee, how many actual days of work experience in the Senate for Barack Obama?...Educated guess 150. It's 143.

"After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days -- I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that. In contrast, John McCain's 26 years in Congress, 22 years of military service including 1,966 days in captivity as a POW in Hanoi now seem more impressive than ever." So there you go, 143 days. So this is the key. All of these so-called flip-flops, all these changes in position, they are due to his inexperience. His inexperience and his incompetence lead him to make goofs, to lie, to flounder around." -- Rush Limbaugh

Justify the middle class comment?