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Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 04:34 PM

I want to know all you can tell me about this gun. How is it compared to a ion? Can you put a foregrip on it? and What upgrades are available for it?

P.S. did not know which gun forum to put this in.

**pballa12** · March 12th, 04:37 PM

Well RPM has better eyes then the ion, and is capable of shooting faster. It has a better stock feedneck and trigger. But it has no va or reg. So ud need to get a VA and a REG. It is heavier then the ion tho the ion is plastic. It is louder then the ion. Also the stock barrel isnt great. The ions has alot more upgrades avalible. For more info on the rpm check out this thread. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1338143

Destx · March 12th, 04:46 PM

The ion is not plastic jezzz, also the ion isnt loud at all.

**Dogpatch** · March 12th, 05:03 PM

Also the RPM does have a reg, it's under the trigger frame. To put a foregrip on it you have to buy a mini-cocker VA. It fits, but barely. Then you can put a gas thru grip on it, or change the reg.

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pballa12

Well RPM has better eyes then the ion, and is capable of shooting faster. It has a better stock feedneck and trigger. But it has no va or reg. So ud need to get a VA and a REG. It is heavier then the ion tho the ion is plastic. It is louder then the ion. Also the stock barrel isnt great. The ions has alot more upgrades avalible. For more info on the rpm check out this thread. http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1338143

What is a va? what would be a good reg for it? Also is there any upgrade boards for it?

**Dogpatch** · March 12th, 05:11 PM

VA = Vertical Adapter. The place you connect a reg or gas thru grip or expansion chamber. You don't need an ex chamber, and you don't really need a reg. There is one on the RPM stock, most people miss it because it is under the trigger frame.

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 05:15 PM

So a shocktech minicocker vertical adapter will work?

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 05:19 PM

Also if im going to be running n2/compressed air do I want a expansion chamber or gas through grip? Also these will fit with the minicocker VA right?

**Dogpatch** · March 12th, 05:20 PM

Yea, that's exactly the one you need.
There are two methods of attaching it. Some say to grind off the first couple of threads, or you can just teflon tape it and screw it in as far as ya can without stripping it.
With n2 you do not want an ex chamber.

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 05:25 PM

Okay so after I get on the gas through grip can i still use the steel braided line or should i get macroline? And one more thing what barrel threads does the RPM have?

**pballa12** · March 12th, 05:47 PM

auto cocker threads. You might want a macroline because the one u have now will have alot of extra on it. But u dont need one.

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 05:47 PM

Or should i get a ASA on/off and attach a regulator to the minicocker VA. besides does the stock reg thingy have an on/off?

**the_real_kaz** · March 12th, 08:29 PM

The stock Regulator on the RPM has an On/Off

Hey, I personally own an RPM and my freind owns an Ion. In Janurary we did a side by side comparison of the 2 guns. We compared them on everything from weight to speed to comfort and a lot of other catagorys. If you want I can PM you the whole comaprision or post it on here if you'd like.

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 09:34 PM

That would be awesome if you put it up

Bunkerbait125 · March 12th, 09:40 PM

Also one more thing I know it can run on Co2 but does it have to be anti siphoned?

**the_real_kaz** · March 15th, 01:21 PM

No, the RPM dosn't need an anti siphone but it is a good idea

The RPM vs The Ion.

We compared both of these guns side by side in 34 degree weather. The Ion had a 16 inch cp barrel and has nitro for the gas. The RPM had it's stock 8 inch barrel and a 20 oz CO2 tank for the gas. Both guns used an Egg for a hopper and a Halo TSA.

Speed: We each shot both guns in a number of different modes. We decided that the RPM shot faster on semi. The ramping modes worked good with both of them.

Accuracy: We then had an accuracy contest to see who could shoot a pop can about 15 to 20 yards away. The Ion had the much better barrel and won this.

Weight: The Ion with its stock plastic black body is only about 1/2 pound lighter then the RPM. You can hardly tell the difference when the hoppers are full of paint.

Comfort when holding: This can be a big thing or mean very little. The RPM does not have a VA which is uncomfortable to some. If you've ever used a gun with out a VA before the RPM will not be uncomfortable. But if you need a VA to hold on to then you will like the comfort of the Ion more.

Modes: The Ion and the RPM both have a couple of options. When we compared them it became very evident that it was a lot easyer to switch the RPM's modes then the Ions. The Ion involes blinking lights and codes while the RPM is a simple switch located inside the trigger frame. The RPM was a lot easyer to use here.

Regulators: Theres really isn't anything special with eaither regulator other then the RPM comes stock with an ON/Off.

If there is anything else you would like me to add just say so.

**pballa12** · March 15th, 06:50 PM

Good review. Think of it this way u can get the RPM a VA and a Reg for the same price or less then the ion

**the_real_kaz** · March 15th, 10:27 PM

way less accually. Remeber you can buy a cheap 20 oz CO2 tank vs the $150 nitro tank you need for the Ion.

I forgot the conclution so here it is.

Conclution: all in all both guns are pretty good low tournment grade guns. When deciding between the two performace is so close that I would decide on money. Becouse the Ion is so upgradeable. If you need a cheap tournment grade set up get the RPM and save yourself $100, but if you want a gun that you can buy up grades for then get the Ion.

Bunkerbait125 · March 17th, 07:10 PM

Well I decided on the RPM. Now I gotta wait for ************* to ship it. Anyways I emailed Scenario Dreams and they said they should have a T-board out for the RPM by early may!!!

**the_real_kaz** · March 19th, 09:12 PM

Really, I need to get a hold of that. Scenario Dreams.... never heard of them before. What do they make?