Bloodwrath970

okay, i know im gonna sound like an idiot, but here it goes. whats the difference between a banshee, swat, ironhorse etc.? are they the same gun that come with different barrels, stocks and baisic loadout, or would they have a preformance difference if equiped with the same thing after you buy them?

Darkmatter

They are the same basic gun. The name plate is different, but that's it. So if you buy a SWAT, the name plate is going to say SWAT whether you like it or not. If you are thinking about buying, let me know and I can help you out deciding.

Bloodwrath970

im going to buy when i get enough money, im going for:

AK-47 APEX barrel
BIPOD
E-Grip
F.E. colapsable stock
and a 450 offset picatinny (so i can get a "laser".

btw, can i attach the bipod via the adaptor to the 47 barrel or is it to oddly shaped? if you couldnt tell im new.

Darkmatter

I don't think you can attach any bipod to the AK-47 APEX barrel kit without rigging it.

darrenkennett

Hey I shoot a BT and i love it!! but every where i go i get told over and over again to sell it! and get told to buy a pmr? or some thing! but i **** them sure my marker dont shoot 20bps but it shoots ****ing hard and accurate and have never let me down once!! Go ben tippman ps if any bt owners in the north east, want to start a bt team pm me peace

Darkmatter

Hey man, I'm glad you like your BT! Everyone is telling you to bye a PMR? Do you play a lot of speedball? If so, Tippmanns or BTs probably arn't the best guns to have, don't get me wrong they will work, but they are made with woodsball players in mind.

If you do play speedball and want to keep the BT then get BT's e-trigger and put a different board in it, get a double trigger kit, and mod the trigger so the pull range wont be as long.

darrenkennett

NO mate i'm a woodsball player born n bread lol, i've recently just moved up to the north east uk from the south west were i was in a team that only had bts i'm seaching for people up here to start or join a team
cheers mate

Darkmatter

Woodsball, awesome. Well I don't understand why people are trying to get you to buy a PMR, they must be mentally retarded. Yeah, I'm from Texas so I'm not exactly in your area. Hey, but are you going for a mil-sim look for your BT or are you going a more proformance oriented route? If your going for proformance I can give you a good list of some upgrades that you might not know about.

darrenkennett

hi,
oh sounds great, I kinda want to do both! do you want my email or can you PM it to me? i haven't really done much to my marker, just put the expansion mag on it, and some new mounts,
milsim wise i'm i'm trying to get and nice looking ak barrel and stock do you reakon this with fit snugg >
eBay.ca: TACAMO AK-47 Barrel Kit for Tippmann M-98 A5 or BT-4 (item 110109528408 end time 27-Aug-07 20:12:23 EDT)
Cheers chap wb
Ps i no it says its fit but you can never be sure? lol

Darkmatter

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you in so long... I've been a lil' busy. Yeah, it will fit. On to the other stuff. I like the Mil-sim look too, but... well ok. I resently upgraded in the paintball gun department. I figured, "Hey, I have been playing with the same marker for 3 years and haven't even got any upgrades for it... I fell like it is holding me back." So, I went out and bought a Mil-sim lookin' gun. The stock felt so good being that I haden't ever used.. one... W8??!? What the CRAP! I can't use the stock "AND" aim down the sights!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!?! X 1,000,000...

Oh, sorry about the scary story. Heres the thing, it may be twisted, but it's it. I derive enormus pleasure out of shooting people (with my paintball gun...). So, for me, I'm going to have to say mil-sim is second, things that help me... eliminate... my opposition is first! (I know, I know, your saying, "get a rail to raise your sight." That will hurt accuracy.) You can do what you want, but let me tell you my set up.

1. BT-4 Combat (Why you ask. That is a whole other subject.)
2. J&J Ceramic Barrel 14" (This short because in tadum with a stock, it will be a long gun. Why the cheap barrel? 1. It's straight, awsome mod potincial, & proven accurate. 2. After doing extencive research, yes I am serious "extencive", it turns out that with good paintballs, barrels of simular lingth and bore size preform about the same, little difference. You don't have to agree with me.)
3. Special Ops Dogleg Stock (Fixes the stock/pb helmet aiming problem)
4. Palmer Stabilizer!!! ^_^ (This will make you happy! 1. Super-powers your accuracy, 2. Makes CO2 proform almost as well as compressed air. Yes I am serious. Not only that but the 800 shots you may have been getting off a 20 oz. may turn into 1400+ It's a paintball mericle @_@)
5. hrmm... cough.. red dot scope cough..

(Sorry about my spelling, it goes out the window late at night.)

darrenkennett

lol cant complain with any of that!! lol
I've got the bt 4 combat!!
J&J Ceramic Barrels are nice looking! cheap, are work fine gud choice!
your dogleg stock is that the one where your air bottle sits in the middle? lol i know loads of people that have the same problem with there stocks savage!! they seem to forget about goggles lol bad designing!
how much did your Palmer inline Stabilizer set you back?
I've got the mag expansion witch has seem to work pretty nicely boosting the power and keeping every shot almost the same!
nice touch putting the red dot scope I've always wanted 1!! ya just got to figure out a way to get your head down to look through it lol
good hearing from you mate
talk to you soon
happy shooting!!!
lol i cant me bother the check my spelling/grammar so if it doesn't make sense just ask :Plol

Darkmatter

Ok, it sounds as if I may have misled you. That is going to be my set up. I already bought the BT-4 Combat, it'll be here this comming Tues (hopefully...), and after I sell my BT-4 Assault, I will have the money to get all the upgrades - the Stabilizer (I'm gettin it as a present).

1. I'm not exactly sure what you described, but I don't think it was the Dogleg stock I was thinking about (mebby it was, idk) This is what I'm talking about: SPECIAL OPS - 98C DOGLEG STOCK LH I can't find the Right hand one that is not an air through so I'm just going to order it over the phone.

2. Don't get the inline (unless the only thing you do is remote. I'm going to get a female so I can mount it onto the bottom of my paintball gun and plug the remote into that. That way if the remote desides to stop working or brakes, I can still play with my stabilizer. You can use your female stabilizer ON your remote as well. You remove the part that your CO2 tank screws into and replace it with the stab. How cool. Check it out, the 98C set will fit the BT-4s : Stabilizer Female 98 kit [TIPP9815] - $99.00 : Palmers Pursuit Shop!, Where Custom Still Means Something

3. Scope. Scope, scope... scopes. Well I primarily play the position of Sniper (Not guy that can amazingly shoot people from 300 feet away with one shot, no. Guy that can consistantly shoot guy from arount 150ft or less in first shot and that run like the dickens; continue to follow the party around and torment them, yes.) I wanted one of those cool reflex red dot sights like this: TAC GEAR - 4 RETICAL HOLO SIGHT RED DOT ... but I keep on reading reviews that they just don't cut it. They break, stop working, get busted upon paintball impact, eat batteries, and you can't see the red cross or dot in sunlight. So'er I'm thinking this: SCP-009 - SWAT Force Red Dot Sight Green and Red Illuminated Dot - Manufactured by: Leapers (Don't worry, the reviews on this website are harsh.) This will make me happy. I'll tell you right now, if I'm not playing sniper, the scope is going in the bag till I am. The only thing that worries me about scopes on a BT-4 without a riser rail is that stupid hopper holding elbow, ok it's not stupid but... It's so tall I'm afraid that it will get in the view of my scope. That will just be something I'll have to wait and see on.

Talk to you later.

darrenkennett

oh i understand lol duh
yeah had a look at the links pretty nice
i had a sight on my bt for a bit and air rifle 1 lol it never got in th way of the holding elbow and the only thing i really used it for was to find people couldnt really aim with the goggles on lol good hearin from ya chap

Bloodwrath970

im baaaaaack. i just got home from play woodsball with 3 of my friends. darkmatter thanks, ill look into if the bipod will work. anyone here from around the gainesville florida region? i suck, but i might get lucky.

Bloodwrath970

good news, i emailed bt and they said everything was completely compatable. woot, thats gonna be my next gun.

Bloodwrath970

okay, heres a question, that will probably start a big argument but here goes. what is the most reasionably priced, reliable circuit board that can push a gun to 30+ bps (full auto), that will fit in a bt e-grip? i want to know, because even if i can get my aim down, my friend is still a faster shooter. yes i know, if i get all this stuff, its gonna be one pimpin gun.