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March 21st, 08:47 PM
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They Call Me Flash
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Southern Calfornia BABY. Right down the street from SC Village, Home of Team Dynasty. Corona is where i live, but i go to school in Chino Hills. There is a Stream by my house that gets filled with Cow crap...which is kinda wierd. Thats all i can say.
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Ramp Hate
WHY, Ramping is the best thing in the paintball world, why would anyone hate such a buitiful thing....So wild, so Firery, like a VERY hot virgin.....how can u hate it
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March 21st, 09:02 PM
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Ugly Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA
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Some people consider it cheating. It takes little skill to accomplish.
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March 21st, 09:09 PM
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ICD>sp
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: queens NYC
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i think there is nothing wrong with ramping.
if people think the need to shoot 99999999 bps to get a guy out then by all means go for it.
whatever floats your boat man.
ramping=fun
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March 21st, 09:14 PM
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Screaming Koala
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bentleyville, PA
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This is like dragging a steak through the zoo. Very few of the many threads on this have anything good about them.
Mostly, the 90% or so of the paintball world that don't play tourneyball don't care for ramping because it has no use to us. But we deal with it anyway.
Cheating? That depends on what you consider cheating. I know it is legal in some styles of play now. So that's not really cheating now is it. Safe? Probably not. You could argue that if you stand there and take a full 15 or 20bps that you are asking for trouble. Or you could argue that few people react and move fast enough to not take at least one second of it. A good thing for paintball? Again, how do you want to look at it?
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March 21st, 09:15 PM
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They Call Me Flash
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Southern Calfornia BABY. Right down the street from SC Village, Home of Team Dynasty. Corona is where i live, but i go to school in Chino Hills. There is a Stream by my house that gets filled with Cow crap...which is kinda wierd. Thats all i can say.
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as a good thing for paintball....
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HK is a disease...and its making SC Village sick
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March 21st, 09:22 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 633
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who cares....go B**** about whiping if you want people to agree with you.
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March 21st, 09:26 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin
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what exactly is ramping?
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March 21st, 09:27 PM
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Mutiny
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington/Oregon
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no matter what anyone says, ramping has become a part of the sport..so has whiping, just get over it..everyone is on a level playing field so is it really cheating if everyone is doing it?
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March 21st, 09:28 PM
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That's Hot
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Mason, OH
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How is it a good thing? How does it help to make the sport grow?
Oh, that's right...that can't be backed up.
Ramping is just a way for paint manufacturers to sell more paint. The faster people can shoot, even without their own talent, the more paint they sell and the more money they make.
If you can shoot 15 BPS without a ramping board, quit being a wuss and do it without needing a ramping board. By their nature, it's almost impossible to enforce any kind of ramping limit, hence why the PSP pretty much gave in and said it's ok. Just learn to move your finger a bit faster and you can save yourself hundreds since you won't need a board to boost your firing rate.
And did any of you think about the semi-auto rule? If you can shoot faster than 15 BPS on semi-auto, then you're better off. Prove that "I can rip with my gat at 30 BPS on semi" and stick with it. Don't talk smack about the rule if you can't measure up to the limit when you're on semi
Fact is, you don't have to shoot fast to get eliminations.
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March 21st, 09:28 PM
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DON'T PANIC!
Join Date: Aug 2004
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quit energizer. you're askin for to be flamed with crap like that.
i agree, ramping is a good thing. it puts more skill back into the game imo. if everybody has ramping then everybody can be on the same level gun wise, so you wallet isn't as much of a factor.
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March 21st, 09:29 PM
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"Child of The Light"
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Bethlehem, PA
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I'm fine with ramping, as long as the person ramping has the sense of when to use it and when not to. I hate it when a guy uses ramping against a couple of 12 yr olds and their dad who are paintballing for the first time. But, if the guy using ramping only uses it against people around his skill level, I'm totally cool with it. If he wants to spend all his money on paint, it's fine with me.
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March 21st, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin
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ok but still somebody describe to me what ramping is and whats a ramping board?
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March 21st, 09:33 PM
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"Child of The Light"
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Bethlehem, PA
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ramping artificially increases BPS. Say your fingers are moving at 10BPS, ramping boosts it up to how many BPS you want.
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March 21st, 09:35 PM
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That's Hot
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Mason, OH
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Ramping, in a nutshell, is when you have an electronic board in your marker that allows you to fire faster.
The board will detect when you've reached a certain firing rate on your own (12 BPS, for example) and from there on our will give you a boost in firing rate to a limit you've specified (like 16 BPS).
That way, you start out shooting all by yourself and then your marker will help you shoot a bit faster. So far only PSP has officially allowed ramping boards, since it gave in to paint manufacturers and players that don't have the gonads to play semi-auto and feel confident about it.
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March 21st, 09:36 PM
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Its never lupus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Five One Oh
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I'm fine with ramping, just not the way PSP does it. They do it three shots semi then full auto. It should be done like 3 shots semi then ramping from like 8-15 or like 10-15. Thats my problem with it.
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March 21st, 09:38 PM
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I Invented Agg
Join Date: Jul 2004
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its wiping, not whiping.
There will ALWAYS be cheaters, look at barry bonds, he came up and made a speech about how bad steriods are and then a year later, we find that he is using them. And its not just sports that have cheaters, even video games are infested with cheaters.
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March 21st, 09:39 PM
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The backwards man...
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston, TX
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if you think ramping is unfair, how do you think a nub with a 98c would feel playing against someone with 5 years of experience and a dm5? thats not cheating, its legal, and no one complains about it. so why complain about ramping? its the same thing. you could argue all day about how pulling a microswitch isnt using any talent because a computer is firing the gun for you, and using a mech gun is "actually" firing the gun with your own finger. but no one does it, because no one cares, and no one should care about ramping. anyone is free to go out and buy a ramping board, just like anyone is free to choose whether they want a mech or electro gun.
its also not really fair that some people are capable of walking the trigger at 20+ bps while others are limited to 10. some people have naturally fast fingers, others just cannot get faster no matter how much they practice. has that ever stopped anyone from playing paintball? no. is it illegal to play paintball if you have super fast fingers when everyone else doesn't? no. quit complaining.
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March 21st, 09:46 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2005
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haha i just realized that the main post was glorifying ramping and not bashing it.
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March 21st, 09:46 PM
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That's Hot
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Mason, OH
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Originally Posted by paintthecatBLUE
if you think ramping is unfair, how do you think a nub with a 98c would feel playing against someone with 5 years of experience and a dm5? thats not cheating, its legal, and no one complains about it. so why complain about ramping? its the same thing. you could argue all day about how pulling a microswitch isnt using any talent because a computer is firing the gun for you, and using a mech gun is "actually" firing the gun with your own finger. but no one does it, because no one cares, and no one should care about ramping. anyone is free to go out and buy a ramping board, just like anyone is free to choose whether they want a mech or electro gun.
its also not really fair that some people are capable of walking the trigger at 20+ bps while others are limited to 10. some people have naturally fast fingers, others just cannot get faster no matter how much they practice. has that ever stopped anyone from playing paintball? no. is it illegal to play paintball if you have super fast fingers when everyone else doesn't? no. quit complaining.
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Funny that you say that, because I hate ramping and I used to have an electro until I got it stolen. This past Saturday I played at a UXPL tournament in Sandy with my freakin SPYDER SHUTTER, STOCK except for my Teadrop barrel and sticky grip, and I wasn't outgunned by another team we played in semi-finals that all had DM4s and Matrixes. We ended up taking THIRD state-wide, and that team ended the tourney ranked 11th.
Don't give me crap about how it levels the playing field because that's like saying that widening the basketball hoop, making the golf hole bigger, shortening the distance to homerun range is making the sport better. MAKING A SHALLOWER LEARNING CURVE IS NOT PROGRESS. If anything, it shows the sport is dominated by a bunch of pansies who can only back up their smack-talk when they have a cheater board. I don't give a crap if people can't shoot faster than 10 BPS, that's their problem and the sport shouldn't cater to them. If you feel that your ego is hurt because you can't shoot as fast as everyone else, this is not the sport for you.
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March 21st, 09:52 PM
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Blue Barracudas.
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watertown.
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I dont mind about ramping, but it doesn't matter to me becuase I play woodsball and recball. I'm all in favor of it if I played in a tournament though.
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