View Poll Results: Does The Gun Make The Player?
|
|
Yes
|
  
|
11 |
14.29% |
|
No
|
  
|
66 |
85.71% |
| Voters: 77. You may not vote on this poll |
 |
|
June 18th, 10:36 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 60
|
Does The Gun Make The Player?
Vote yess if you think the gun makes the player.
Vote No if you think the player makes the gun.
|
|
|
|
Sponsored Links
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
June 18th, 10:37 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
|
Pneumatically Insane ©
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Wichita, Kansas Feedback: +9/-0
Posts: 2,707
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Francesco
Vote yess if you think the gun makes the player.
Vote No if you think the player makes the gun.
|
Neither^
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Francesco
Does The Gun Make The Player?
|
No^
Explain what u are asking.
Last edited by Shamed_Spartan : June 18th at 10:45 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 10:38 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
|
VIP
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: south carolina
Posts: 1,068
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Shamed_Spartan
Neither
|
4char |
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 10:40 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
|
I was saving that bacon
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 5,796
|
Im actually going to have to agree with shamed on this one. Both are important to be the best player possible. But with out skills by the player you will lose no matter what. The best player can beat a noob usign a pump and the noob using sl66 ego. But unless you have the best possible gun and setup, you can be limited by your equipment. allowing someone withthe same skill or slightly less to win.
__________________
I had to change from Wesley's sig and avatar. I was tired of Medic and Doomsydaisy sending me nudes  |
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 10:41 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
|
Aj
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Near San Fransisco Ca
Posts: 199
|
Neither it's all about skill. You could have a crappy stock brass but have the determanation and guts to play and be really good, so it's neither.
__________________
Smart Parts owner #198
Stock Black Ion
Black Halo B
48/3k HP Pure Energy n2 tank
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 10:43 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
|
Considerately Killing Me
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Amelia, OH
Posts: 118
|
They improve one another...
__________________
"Eleven and she was gone.
Eleven is when we waved good-bye.
Eleven is standing still,
Waiting for me to free him
By coming home.
Moving me with a sound.
Opening me within a gesture.
Drawing me down and in,
Showing me where it all began
Showing me where it all began,
Eleven..."
FEEDBACK:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=1585567
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 10:44 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
|
Mr. Sexy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,157
|
The player makes the gun. Unless your marker makes you severly limited. Ie, not working, shooting 150fps, ect.
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 11:01 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
|
GAT GAT GAT
Join Date: May 2006
Location: atlanta GA
Posts: 101
|
without a player the gun is just bits and pieces of junk put togeather
__________________
democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for lunch
liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote
Guns dont kill people,people kill people... guns just speed up the process
gunfire is the sound of freedom
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 11:04 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
|
Feeling Old
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: STL
Posts: 12,075
|
it's mainly the player. The gun plays a very small role in it.
How else do you think some players can compete in national events w/ pumps and get eleminations?
ultimately it only takes 1 shot. And getting to that 1 shot is all player.
__________________
05 PROMASTER , 14" Macdev Matchstick, Kila Drive, Zentriam Valve, ICDU ram, CCM no-rise, Sonic lpr
No reason for hope.
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 11:09 PM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
|
Banged
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Waldorf maryland
Posts: 6,008
|
how many dozens of times has this been argued over by countless noobs?
seriously, just stop
__________________
Want an Ion Blackheart board? PM me.
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 11:17 PM
|
#11 (permalink)
|
|
Mr. Sexy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,157
|
Actually, everyone is agreeing on this topic. So if agreeing=arguing then I see your point.
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 11:21 PM
|
#12 (permalink)
|
|
UW-EC
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,717
|
The player is more important then the gun. Example, give Lang a Brass Eagle, and give some kid a timmy, Lang will probbly still shoot him.
If you have a gun the works fine like (Semi-auto, 250ish fps, and dosn't chop everyball) then you'll be fine.
|
|
|
|
|
June 18th, 11:31 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
|
|
Elite Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 625
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by the_real_kaz
The player is more important then the gun. Example, give Lang a Brass Eagle, and give some kid a timmy, Lang will probbly still shoot him.
If you have a gun the works fine like (Semi-auto, 250ish fps, and dosn't chop everyball) then you'll be fine.
|
but the kid would still stand a better chance of beating Lang then he would if he gave him a high end gun.
Basically it is neither. If you take 2 newbs at the same skill level and give 1 a ****ty gun and 1 a high end chances are good the person with the high end is gonna win, but on the other hand if you take a newb with a high and and a good player with a low end the chances of that newb winning are decreased. I think the gun does make a huge difference though. Take a pump or a spyder out to the field and play for a day then go take a better gun (shocker/timmy/ego/dm/whatever other high ends there are) I can gaurantee you will play better with the high end.
You can argue this back and forth but imo a bad player with a bad gun is gonna suck, a bad player with a good gun is gonna be ok, a good player with a bad gun is gonna be ok, but a good player with a good gun is gonna kick ass.
__________________
2005 Vision Shocker- Predator 5.0 Board, Break Beam Lazer Eyes, Redz Pepper Stickz Barrel Kit, New Designs Floating Bolt Guide, Sidewinder Regulator,15 Degree Hybrid ASA with gauge, Q-Lock Feedneck, Red Q-Lock Latch, Red Eye Cover, Custom Products Trigger, Dye Sticky 3 Grips, New Designs Bolt Kit, New Designs Detent, Powerlite Rail, and KAPP On/Off.
|
|
|
|
|
June 19th, 12:10 AM
|
#14 (permalink)
|
|
UW-EC
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 2,717
|
.... ok, how about a good player with a mid-range gun?? Like IDK a nerve or promaster, I beat you it will make no difference then between that and a high high end gun.
lol makeing this more complicated now lol.
|
|
|
|
|
June 19th, 12:22 AM
|
#15 (permalink)
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: I'm a Masshole
Posts: 5,610
|
This has been done a 1000 times... perhaps a sticky in the new player forum or something should be made.
In a nutshell, the answer is no. The better the gun, the more of an edge you have, thus the reason pro players shoot $1000-$1800 guns.
The greatest gun in the world will not make up for complete lack of skill. You can have ramping gun that shoots 30bps laser beams, but guess what happens when you suck and go up against someone with skill regardless of his gun... You'll end up getting tunnel vision and will get a rude wake up call when they come bunker you -or- you'll lose a snap battle -or- you'll get shot otb. Take your pick.
(Seriously meestah mods, there should be a sticky!!  )
__________________
Point System is Pointless
If you believe in God, and are proud of it, put this in your sig.
|
|
|
|
|
June 19th, 12:43 AM
|
#16 (permalink)
|
|
<3 I love fat chicks <3
Join Date: May 2004
Location: a constant state of delusion
Posts: 6,188
|
paintball is 90% luck, 8% bull****, and 2% skill.
but in seriousness, paintball is about 70% skill, 30% gun.
__________________
An eye for an eye, makes the world blind. - Gandhi
|
|
|
|
|
June 19th, 12:47 AM
|
#17 (permalink)
|
|
Will Fix Guns For $$
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Riverside CA
Posts: 1,278
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by dudeus000
paintball is 90% luck, 8% bull****, and 2% skill.
but in seriousness, paintball is about 70% skill, 30% gun.
|
Very much so. but you forgot about team work but I guess that counts as a Skill
I have seen guys with Phantoms owning guys that use high end electros
__________________
Tippmann Owner, Smartparts Owner, Autococker Owner, Pump Owner, Seridan owner, Automag owner... Gun Collector 
Homebrew Mod God Tippmann Mods:
Spring Loaded RT, Mirror Polished Internals , High Flow Valve, Full auto Mod
Smartpart Mods:
Ion Foamie
Cocker Mods:
EZ Timing Bolt
If you make your own custom parts put this in your sig.
|
|
|
|
|
June 19th, 10:19 AM
|
#18 (permalink)
|
|
Wheeeeee!
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Schaumburg, IL (German for "foam castle," apparently...)
Posts: 1,400
|
Who cares? If you can afford it, buy a better gun. If you can't, then don't.
Maybe you'll get pwn3d if your gun screws up. But it's just a game, honestly. Expect to lose, and plan to win.
|
|
|
|
|
June 20th, 12:42 AM
|
#19 (permalink)
|
|
Supporter
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: SC reprosent
Posts: 3,908
|
| |
Does The Gun Make The Player?
