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Abhungal · October 11th, 06:40 PM

I was planning on buying a Smartparts Ion, but the good HPA tanks were expensive! I was looking and saw a remote... I was wondering if you can use a 20 oz Co2 tank with a remote instead of buying a $210 HPA tank (thats more than the gun!

). Any answers will be appreciated! Thanks in Advance!

**squirrel** · October 11th, 07:01 PM

First, the it is possible to use the remote and co2 tank on an ion, i would not reccomend it but it can work. Remotes generally tend to not be all that great, they mess up your posture and make the weight distribution of your gun awkward. I would suggest buying an hpa tank, i think that the lucky air and pmi pure energy tanks are only about 160, or if that is still too much you can always buy a aluminum 48-72/3000 tank for about 50-70 dollars. If those are still too expensiveyou can always buy and co2 tank and get it anti-siphoned by a certified airsmith. My opinon is to just buy a 4500 tank like the lucky or pe one.

some_guy · October 11th, 07:04 PM

umm you could use co2 with a remote..but i wouldnt on your ion...i was gonna do the same thing (use c02) with my ion, but i asked on here first and every single person said not to because it will screw with your internals and stuff so i wouldnt recomend it....you can find good tanks for decent prices on ebay...or even look at your local pawn shop...thats what i am doing...

Torch · October 11th, 09:24 PM

It should be fine.

But it is one of those odd cases where you'll be "Fine right up to the point where your gun stopped working." Know what I mean?

Kinda like, "They got along fine until they got in a fight."

some_guy · October 11th, 09:26 PM

yeah...it isnt a progressive thing...it just happens...then ur s.o.l

Torch · October 11th, 09:31 PM

Right. With the remote though it should take several things going wrong to break the gun.

But if you get a filthy CO2 fill from somewhere (They're pretty bad sometimes, I used to think otherwise), it can load the seals and lube with dirt. So those can wear out faster.

But the main concern is sucking liquid CO2 past the regulators into the solenoid. With the remote the chance of that is pretty small (Since the liquid will be at the bottom of the tank and any that does make it out should boil into gas inside the remote).

***martix_agent*** · October 11th, 11:01 PM

I know that If i spent the money on another marker, I'd want to make sure to keep it running. If you can't afford a used aluminium HPA tank, you should probalyl sell your ion and get something that CAN use co2

some_guy · October 11th, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martix_agent

I know that If i spent the money on another marker, I'd want to make sure to keep it running. If you can't afford a used aluminium HPA tank, you should probalyl sell your ion and get something that CAN use co2

i agree..

**splatwithhonor3** · October 11th, 11:11 PM

You can pick up a used steel tank on here/ebay/nation for under $60 shipped any day of the week. A little bit heavy, but if you're used to co2 tanks anyways, it won't be much of a change.

Abhungal · October 12th, 05:21 PM

What would be the chance of an anti-siphoned tank and a remote system??
I found a good deal for an aluminum 48/3000 psi tank, a max flo feg and an ion for $310. thats a good deal right? i thought it was. I havent bought my ion yet but im planning to soon. Also, doesnt the tank only get about 600 shots?? thats no so much compared to a Co2.... Well thanks if you can answer this question!

some_guy · October 12th, 05:23 PM

i dont exactly know the chance but if i spent the money on an ion i wouldnt want to risk ruining it and having to buy a new one instead of spendin a little extra for a used n2 tank

Torch · October 12th, 05:29 PM

If you anti-siphon the tank AND use a remote you reverse the effect of the anti-siphon.

So, more likely to break something.

What's with the max-flow reg? The ion's stock regulator will be fine, especially if you're strapped for cash right now. And the HPA tank will come with a regulator on it as well. It's ready to go.

Abhungal · October 12th, 05:30 PM

What about that deal? thanks!

some_guy · October 12th, 05:31 PM

yeah cause wouldnt using a remote line just give the place for the co2 to settle back into liquid form or what not...just putting liquid co2 into the gun...

Abhungal · October 12th, 05:35 PM

The max flo reg is a really good regulator out out by Smartparts. I was wondering though, the tank costs like $80 and the max flo $100 so your savin like 100 bucks. i thought it was a good deal but the shots per tank is a little low.....(you can find the deal for the gun for more info on Action village...)

some_guy · October 12th, 05:37 PM

what do you play...speedball or woods ball...cause if you think about it, if you not using 600 shots per game...what does it really matter when you could fill up you tank between games....yeah it sounds like a good deal...just make sure everything is in good working condition...if you can shoot it a little before buying it that would be good too

Abhungal · October 12th, 05:39 PM

live in a rural area and play mainly woodsball and a little speed ball so i dont really want to drive out to somewhere where it'll take like 30 mins to refill everytime.... me and my buds go to places where its run down or something...
its not a real corse....

some_guy · October 12th, 05:43 PM

hmm...than idk...cause me and most of the people i know who play woodsball use co2...but dont have ions...plus we have a refill tank so i havent yet ran into that problem...for speedball 600 shots would be fine cause there are refill tnaks...but idk i guess its your call

Torch · October 12th, 05:56 PM

I know what the maxflow is. I was just asking why it was so important. You may be saving $100 but it's on something you didn't really need in the first place.

What do Ion's cost now a days? 200$, right?

If you're dead set on buying an Ion, here's what I would do.

I'd buy the cheapest one I could find. New or used. Then I would buy a used HPA tank. You can probably get a 88/4500 for barely over $100 used. It should give you enough air to fire off most of a case before you run out of air. And there won't be a chance of hurting the marker.

**the_real_kaz** · October 12th, 07:41 PM

I've seen it done before. I have a freind who runs a remote on his Ion like that. The only problem he's had, is if he lays down, squats, sits, leans to far in any direction or do anything other then stand in the back, his reg starts to freeze.

He ran it like that all summer though and he didn't break it to my surprize! but then again he wasn't much help couse he wouldn't lane or shoot alot for fear of breaking it.

I think the price of HPA tanks needs to come down. Some company needs to take the first step and make a nice carbon tank for less then $200!