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admeech29 · November 29th, 08:44 PM

Hello, I was wondering does anyone know anything about how the boards are made or have schematics? Also how does it connect to the marker?

Adam

**Renegade_Storm** · November 30th, 08:35 AM

i dunno, good question, try Google

**evolkers2003** · November 30th, 10:20 PM

I have one of an ION board hold on.

**evolkers2003** · November 30th, 10:23 PM

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4139433

this should work

**txaggie08** · November 30th, 10:36 PM

Hmmm i see were this line fo thinking is going.....

To build even a basic board requires you to b able to build and program a 555 timer circuit. It has been said over and over and over again, its just not worth it. If you need a cheap, generic board, look into a spyder t-board...

**evolkers2003** · December 1st, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by txaggie08

Hmmm i see were this line fo thinking is going.....

To build even a basic board requires you to b able to build and program a 555 timer circuit. It has been said over and over and over again, its just not worth it. If you need a cheap, generic board, look into a spyder t-board...

lol, i was thinking about doing my own ION board. Just redoing it, not actaully building a whole new one. The hardest part is the sodering cause its so small. But my step dad is a comp wiz so wiht my pb knowledge and his comp. knowledge i could do it.

**txaggie08** · December 1st, 06:37 PM

Actualy the hardest part is going to be learning to program in whatever language you use(and no, this is not the same as the C++ and VB code common in computers), then buying the tools to actualy press the chip.

**evolkers2003** · December 1st, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by txaggie08

Actualy the hardest part is going to be learning to program in whatever language you use(and no, this is not the same as the C++ and VB code common in computers), then buying the tools to actualy press the chip.

Yeah but we can do all that stuff, we would just need someone to soder(sp) it.

**PaintViper** · December 2nd, 02:14 PM

What is the language for boards? Not that I would even consider making one... Is it Unix by chance?

**txaggie08** · December 2nd, 02:34 PM

I cant remember the name, but no its not unix. Its a simplified form of basic used in basic automation and robotics. Its not hard to program one for a 555 timer, but good lord anything like ramping modes is not going to be easy.

**punkandpaint830** · December 5th, 06:43 AM

correct me if I am wrong but most boards ultimately just out put a pulse of electricity to the solenoid to shoot the gun (correct?).

If this is right why cant you use a micro controller (say a pic from microchip) and use that, many cheap (under $3) micro controllers can easily take in and put out 9v. By doing this it would be very easy to write any kind of function, including ramp up functions because you can program it in C or another high level language.

As for what language the boards are using, the schematic posted has an atmel board which can be programmed in pretty much any common language but most easily in basic. As a note to the person above, there really isn't a language that would qualify as a simple form of basic that would be practical at all. Many microcontrollers are programmed in assembly(the machine code you get when c compiles)

There is no need to build a 555 timer because you can buy one, cheap, besides the fact that nearly every microcontroller has one built in.

Torch · December 6th, 12:01 AM

Aside from being a cool project, is it really worth it when a 'real' aftermarket board doesn't cost all that much?

**txaggie08** · December 6th, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by punkandpaint830

correct me if I am wrong but most boards ultimately just out put a pulse of electricity to the solenoid to shoot the gun (correct?).

If this is right why cant you use a micro controller (say a pic from microchip) and use that, many cheap (under $3) micro controllers can easily take in and put out 9v. By doing this it would be very easy to write any kind of function, including ramp up functions because you can program it in C or another high level language.

As for what language the boards are using, the schematic posted has an atmel board which can be programmed in pretty much any common language but most easily in basic. As a note to the person above, there really isn't a language that would qualify as a simple form of basic that would be practical at all. Many microcontrollers are programmed in assembly(the machine code you get when c compiles)

There is no need to build a 555 timer because you can buy one, cheap, besides the fact that nearly every microcontroller has one built in.

i say simplified because it doesnt have the same number of possible I/O commands for the most part....

Ive never seen a sutiably low power draw chip that could be programed in any C based language, but im not an expert on the field either.

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