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chicky · December 18th, 10:19 AM

i been playin for a while now...love the sport......goin to be takin my team to a amature tryouts in feb....im ready to upgrade from my spyder pilot....plus i broke it....ive heaard some good stuff about this epiphany.....its not expensive....which is one of the reasons im thinkin 2ce bout this....what do u guys think...ive googled the hell out of it and havent read anything bad yet

**the_real_kaz** · December 18th, 10:38 AM

I'm not a fan of the Epiphany in anyway. It's just an Ion in a nice body. (not joking at all).

Though the Epiphany's price has plummeted in the last year, it's still not worth the what $250 new.

You'd be better off buying the Proto PMR or Prote SLG for the same price. But if you want a really nice marker for the value, the DP fusion or Invert mini (both about $300) are nicer then the epiphany and proto's. You should look at those 2 markers, they'd be great for someone starting tournaments.

chicky · December 18th, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by the_real_kaz

I'm not a fan of the Epiphany in anyway. It's just an Ion in a nice body. (not joking at all).

Though the Epiphany's price has plummeted in the last year, it's still not worth the what $250 new.

You'd be better off buying the Proto PMR or Prote SLG for the same price. But if you want a really nice marker for the value, the DP fusion or Invert mini (both about $300) are nicer then the epiphany and proto's. You should look at those 2 markers, they'd be great for someone starting tournaments.

oh thanks......im tryin to learn this as i go...sdo u know a good site to order from? i kinda wish there was a place that let u test shoot the guns b4 u buy them...ugh...thanks for the help...ill look into the proto

***martix_agent*** · December 18th, 11:19 AM

if your local field sells marker,s they'll let you test them first. Usualy you can ask players as well. Let them know you're looking to buy a new marker and you want to see what theirs feels like. I have no problems with letting somebody pop off a few shots with mine so long as I am with them.

**the_real_kaz** · December 18th, 12:13 PM

try to buy locally first. Otherwise, I buy from actionvillage.com

***YouCantSeeMee*** · December 18th, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by the_real_kaz

I'm not a fan of the Epiphany in anyway. It's just an Ion in a nice body. (not joking at all).

Though the Epiphany's price has plummeted in the last year, it's still not worth the what $250 new.

You'd be better off buying the Proto PMR or Prote SLG for the same price. But if you want a really nice marker for the value, the DP fusion or Invert mini (both about $300) are nicer then the epiphany and proto's. You should look at those 2 markers, they'd be great for someone starting tournaments.

That's 100% right. The Epiphanay is realyl just the Ion with an all metal body, and slightly upgraded internals. Since it is basically still an Ion, I don't like them at all.

chicky · December 18th, 07:56 PM

well i bought my gun....they guy talked me into a proto matrix rail gun....seems like it is workin great...thanks for all the help guys and savin me 200 bucks!! cheaa

**kenny_1491** · December 18th, 08:03 PM

you will be more then happy with the PMR. I have shto bot hthe epiphany and PMR back ot back and got very very similar performance outta the two, but pmr just shot more like a matrix and felt better in my hands so thumbup to you.

***YouCantSeeMee*** · December 20th, 09:03 AM

Good choice. The PMR is a top notch marker, and will take you a long way too. What I like about them, is the fact that they're made by Proto, which is in fact DYE; therefore, you have no need to buy any major upgrades, except for a new backcap (I reccomend NDZ [New Designz], and possibly a new feedneck [again I reccomend NDZ]).

I'm going to be getting a PMR off of AVI (ActionVillage) over Christmas time. I'm buying an NDZ feedneck, and an NDZ backcap right off of the bat as well. They're really the only essential upgrades that it needs.

chicky · December 20th, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by YouCantSeeMee

Good choice. The PMR is a top notch marker, and will take you a long way too. What I like about them, is the fact that they're made by Proto, which is in fact DYE; therefore, you have no need to buy any major upgrades, except for a new backcap (I reccomend NDZ [New Designz], and possibly a new feedneck [again I reccomend NDZ]).

I'm going to be getting a PMR off of AVI (ActionVillage) over Christmas time. I'm buying an NDZ feedneck, and an NDZ backcap right off of the bat as well. They're really the only essential upgrades that it needs.

thanks! i didnt get mine off action village tho...i boycotted that site! they are always out of stock of the stuff i want!! but yea online they got killer deals on the gun only for christmas! i juust got mine in the mail wednesday.......i F'n love it....i cant wait to play next weekend!! we r tryin out for amatures in feb...i have questions about that too...but ill take it to the other sticky ..thanks guys

***YouCantSeeMee*** · December 20th, 10:33 AM

Anytime, man.

**kenny_1491** · December 20th, 10:39 AM

then an on/off asa I believe(not sure if it comes with one)

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