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May 8th, 02:55 PM
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that's because they match the milsim look they strive for. don't let this fall into the oh-so-slippery slope again.
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May 8th, 03:28 PM
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New players use Tippmanns but not all players with Tippmanns are necessarily new.
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May 8th, 08:41 PM
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its definately not a speedball marker unless u really trick it out, but they are mainly used for woodsball or milsim and scenario games. half the people at woods-games have them and ask anyone of em, they are great for both beginner and dudes with 10 years or expeience
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tippmann 98,21"smart parts tactical barrel, saw stock, ricochet hopper, rufus dawg double trigger and its all camoed
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May 8th, 10:39 PM
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#24 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trbo323
ya, if you really mod any budget marker to the max it would probably be good enoufgh for a beginner speedball team
and as for the sniper II, well i dont know the marker itself but anything that is listed as "sniper" in paintball is really only geared towards new players
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Make sure you're correct before you post.
I would hardly consider my CCM pump a newb gun.
Tippmanns are easy to use for noobs. If I were to play rec I'd probably get one and throw a decent reg and barrel kit on there. I've never liked their length.
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May 9th, 07:36 AM
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I have been playing paintball almost as long as Matrix has been alive. I have used Tippmanns almost as long. In my lifetime I have owned 1 SL-68II, 1 procar, 2 customs and an A-5. They are robust and reliable. For any rec player old or new you can't go wrong with a Tippmann. Are the slow and heavy? Yup, but that don't make em a noob marker.
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May 9th, 09:24 AM
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Tippmanns are high reliability, low maintenance guns. So in that sense, they're perfect for noobs. There are experienced players out there who still like to play woods, and especially scenarios. And if I was going to carry a marker through the woods all day knowing I'd get dirt all over it, drop it a few times, and maybe run into a tree--I'd pick a tippy.
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May 9th, 11:50 AM
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well
you can say so.
there like the almost easiest to maintain gun.damn cheap (money wise)
but wiked when it comes to reliability and durability
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May 9th, 11:52 AM
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myself
i own an Alpha black, old old 98c, and my dad has a BT-ironhorse and a BT-erc
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May 9th, 11:53 AM
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i consider
i consider bt as tippmann b/c its made by ben tippmann prolly dumb but it makes scence 
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May 9th, 11:55 AM
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i have
ive been playing for 5or 6 years and i still use tippmanns. alot of people might think they are for noobs but i dont think so. i would prolly recomend a tippmann for someone who is starting to play milsim or woodsball and have no idea what they are doing.
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May 9th, 01:57 PM
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wow ginger,
i never said the 98c was ONLY for new players, dont know why people are looking at my post that way
and as for the sniper II, i really wish people would look at the part that says "i dont know the marker itself" go to the paintball section of ebay, type in "sniper" and see just how much usless junk comes up
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May 9th, 03:30 PM
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^^^^^^ Nice way to get a big post count.
Tippmanns are good for noobs but they arent only noob guns... They are good for scenario and woods as stated before, would you really want to buy a 500 dollar marker and drop it and break it or get the internals messed up? No, Tippmann 98C is only.. What.. $140? But used older ones are better because quality has dropped a bit in the newer ones.
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May 9th, 11:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trbo323
ya, if you really mod any budget marker to the max it would probably be good enoufgh for a beginner speedball team
and as for the sniper II, well i dont know the marker itself but anything that is listed as "sniper" in paintball is really only geared towards new players
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Yeah the Worr Game Products Sniper II is just a pump version of a auto-cocker.
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Yesterday, 04:11 PM
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A pet peeve of mine is how Tippmann guys like to brag on the rugged reliability of their 98s and A5s I just got in from playing some woodsball about an hour ago and here is what we had to deal with:
- A Tippmann 98 with a worn out sear it looked to be nearly new but the sear was already toast
- Two Tippmann 98s that just refused to shoot I dismantled them and for the life of me I couldn't figure out what was wrong
- A5 cyclone worn out ratchet
- A5 Cyclone completely junked I took it apart and it was just plastic shavings and crud.
-A5 Cracked power tube.
Add those up and then understand that there were only 30 people playing today. Where is the reliability? None of those problems could be easily fixed and the guys ended up using rentals (also Tippmanns) ironically a couple of them also ended up breaking down. Tippmann has been coasting along on the reputation they built with their older stuff like the Pro Carbine but their new stuff is junk eventually the fanboys will catch on and put their loyalty somewhere else.
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Yesterday, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
A pet peeve of mine is how Tippmann guys like to brag on the rugged reliability of their 98s and A5s I just got in from playing some woodsball about an hour ago and here is what we had to deal with:
- A Tippmann 98 with a worn out sear it looked to be nearly new but the sear was already toast
- Two Tippmann 98s that just refused to shoot I dismantled them and for the life of me I couldn't figure out what was wrong
- A5 cyclone worn out ratchet
- A5 Cyclone completely junked I took it apart and it was just plastic shavings and crud.
-A5 Cracked power tube.
Add those up and then understand that there were only 30 people playing today. Where is the reliability? None of those problems could be easily fixed and the guys ended up using rentals (also Tippmanns) ironically a couple of them also ended up breaking down. Tippmann has been coasting along on the reputation they built with their older stuff like the Pro Carbine but their new stuff is junk eventually the fanboys will catch on and put their loyalty somewhere else.
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I own a a5.. Eh you guys all just got lemons. lol j/k.. Tippmanns QC lowered more than a lot of people think over the years. My A5 is a 2003 model. Older tippmanns are better obviously. Because I havent had a problem except with chopping. And that has yet to be fixed. There are a few brands that I dont chop one though so i think its just being picky.
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Yesterday, 08:37 PM
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#36 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
A pet peeve of mine is how Tippmann guys like to brag on the rugged reliability of their 98s and A5s I just got in from playing some woodsball about an hour ago and here is what we had to deal with:
- A Tippmann 98 with a worn out sear it looked to be nearly new but the sear was already toast
- Two Tippmann 98s that just refused to shoot I dismantled them and for the life of me I couldn't figure out what was wrong
- A5 cyclone worn out ratchet
- A5 Cyclone completely junked I took it apart and it was just plastic shavings and crud.
-A5 Cracked power tube.
Add those up and then understand that there were only 30 people playing today. Where is the reliability? None of those problems could be easily fixed and the guys ended up using rentals (also Tippmanns) ironically a couple of them also ended up breaking down. Tippmann has been coasting along on the reputation they built with their older stuff like the Pro Carbine but their new stuff is junk eventually the fanboys will catch on and put their loyalty somewhere else.
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I am no fan boy of tippmann but I did end up owning my friends dads A-5. The early A-5 cyclone feed systems crap out all the time. They replaced the old plastic ratchet with metal ones now though and the 98's not firing that would be a junk power tube. That happens when they don't taken apart and cleaned. Just because some one bought a tippmann doesn't mean that don't have to strip and clean it thats where alot of problems come from is poor up keep on them.
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Today, 09:27 AM
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I know that maintenance is essential that is true with any marker but Tippmann fanboys have bought into this illusion that their markers are so indestructible that they don't have to do anything to them. My Ego can't be used in the woods because it is too fragile and unreliable (or so I'm told) meanwhile there are half a dozen Tippmanns in pieces in the staging area. What it boils down to is that there is nothing inherently more reliable with Tippmanns and it is a myth that needs to die.
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Today, 01:24 PM
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I wouldn't say it is a myth that they are more reliable. For what most Tippmanns are used for they are more reliable compared to a lot of markers. I would never risk my Angel in the woods because I know it can have issues, but I would bring my Sniper II or A-5 any day because they can take a beating.
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Today, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by snipermonkey2
I wouldn't say it is a myth that they are more reliable. For what most Tippmanns are used for they are more reliable compared to a lot of markers. I would never risk my Angel in the woods because I know it can have issues, but I would bring my Sniper II or A-5 any day because they can take a beating.
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Exactly what I meant. Except (s)hes a real person.
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Today, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trbo323
wow ginger,
i never said the 98c was ONLY for new players, dont know why people are looking at my post that way
and as for the sniper II, i really wish people would look at the part that says "i dont know the marker itself" go to the paintball section of ebay, type in "sniper" and see just how much usless junk comes up
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What are you trying to say about the Sniper II?
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