Originally Posted by pjmcbride

okay fine whatever...

But before you try to convince every manufacturer and the rest of the world that they must call it a marker to save the future of the sport, you may want to first start by convincing the admin of this website.

"Gun Review Forum"
"Gun Comparison Forum"

Originally Posted by Trbo323

you didnt see the story about the woman who died after getting shot with the pepper ball did you? took it to the eye from a paintball marker the cops were using




exactly what iv been saying, we dont want it to get to this point but if it does and people go to vote do you want the voting pamphlet to say "regulate paintball guns" or "regulate paintball markers" cuz think about it there are so many people out there who are up for gun control, if they saw that on a voting pamphet and didnt know anything about paintball what do you suppose they will vote?

Originally Posted by snipermonkey2

Maybe I will talk to him, why not? Also I can keep posting and informing new players joining this forum that we should refer to it as a marker. It is all about educating people.

Originally Posted by snipermonkey2

It is all about educating people.

Originally Posted by snipermonkey2

I think I saw something about that women on the discovery channel. Yeah as for gun control nuts they would push for that type of thing. They need to go read the Bill of Rights and get lost. I am glad I can purchase firearms in NH so easily.

Originally Posted by pjmcbride

As concerned as you are about this I'm surprised you haven't contacted them already.

Thanks for educating people on your opinion.

Originally Posted by Trbo323

totally agreed!



well heres the thing, theres nothing in the constitution that says they cant regulate sporting goods and since paintball gear is not sold at firearms stores i dont see why they couldnt, its kinda a catch 22, if they are defined as guns then they couldnt be banned (could still be regulated heavely look at all the laws for owning firearms) and on the other hand if they are not defined as guns they could be outlawed (yes i know thats not gunna happen in our lives at least but the safety police are everywhere now a days, pretty much gota wear a biosuit to smoke cuz you could give someone cancer. never smoked and dont like it but i think its funny that it is so heavely regulated now)

Originally Posted by philly_philco

Oh, and if everything that shoots a projectile is a gun, then everything that you throw should be a grenade. Doesn't make any sense right? Neither does the logic that just because it shoots something it's a gun.

Originally Posted by The_Duke

My logic is flawed? You are comparing apples(my logic) to oranges(your logic). I said anything that is propelled out of a barrel is a gun. You made your statement much much much more broad.

I don't care what your military handbook says. Just because the military says something doesn't mean that is what it is. I am not going to call any hand held, single person item that shoots something a weapon. That has a bad connotation. The average person considers a weapon something that is used to harm someone. The average person would agree with my definition of what a gun is. You are just too biased in your thinking that the military is all-knowing.

Originally Posted by snipermonkey2

Well if they ever read the forums maybe they will read this thread. Also how is it only my opinion when other people are agreeing with me.

Originally Posted by pjmcbride

yeah your right, if you get a couple people that agree with your opinion it automatically becomes a fact. my bad.

Originally Posted by Nikolai 77

What I want to know is this; do these people who moan and groan about paintball markers being dangerous and possibly used as weapons and dislike it, are they against the military? I'm not trying to get into politics at all by making this statement, but as far as I know our armed forces sometimes use paintball markers for combat simulation whereas using actual firearms during such training would be quite dangerous.
As long as you have your mask on, I sincerely doubt a .68 caliber ball filled with colored oil at >300 fps will kill you.
I know it's a bad example, but if you think about it, it proves paintball markers are non-lethal if used correctly and safely.
Also, police use weapons that fire "non-lethal" (I prefer the term "less lethal") projectiles such as rubber bullets for crowd control and at prisons and whatnot. So you mean to tell me paintball markers used during games with strict safety rules are more dangerous than being shot by a policeman with rubber bullets? I'm sure the officers will be more than happy to stop what they're doing, hand you a mask, and say "put this on so I can safely shoot you." Yeah, right.
If people raise such a stink about the dangers of paintball markers and airsoft guns and the like, why don't they take a look at what various facets of the government uses and raise a stink about that? Instead we're bomblasted with asinine stories about terrorist cells within the U.S. going to paintball fields to train and a kid taking the orange tip off his airsoft handgun and taking it to school and similar nonsense.
I agree with the starter of this thread. It is a paintball marker, not a gun. When I first heard the term used I asked the guy, "what the hell is a marker?" He explained to me the attempts of paintballers to disassociate the sport with the term "gun," and ever since then I've tried replacing the term "gun" with "marker" when referring to paintball. It slips every now and then, though, but I support the cause.
What's even more ironic are my attempts at making my marker resemble a realistic gun. But still, with the hopper and tank on, that image is greatly depreciated.

Originally Posted by 2.0

multiquote is your friend.

Anyways. The community of paintballers around the world call it a marker, so a marker it is. Even in spanish it's a "marcador".

Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

Comparing paintball to baseball would be a great idea. People get beat to **** with baseball bats all the time but they don't blame baseball or call it unsafe (a 70 mph baseball has a lot more kinetic energy than a paintball). I don't care about disassociating the sport with the term gun. We call water guns water guns but they pose little threat. By doing this we're appealing to the wrong people. People need to learn that not everything labeled gun is going to kill their children or teach them to go into daddy's gun safe and shoot their friend.

Originally Posted by Crawdaddy

Water guns and cap guns have already taken the hit it is now getting close to impossible to find one that isn't see through plastic or shaped like a duck.

Originally Posted by sNoW PIrAnHa

It is correct to call it a gun or marker.