I think it's complete bull crap. Wasting more money on either a new marker or a conversion kit? Seriously? Wtf. And the people that mostly get screwed over are the people that can spend less. Think about it. They conversion kits only go from the 07 Ego and up. What about 05 and 06? Those people most likely have that because they can't afford a newer one. I will, for sure, NOT replace my DM6 and waste a lot more after I worked so hard to earn money for a DM6.
absolutely, they will be kicking people out of paintball if suddenly all these people can find are .5 paintballs and no conversion kit
love my dm6 as well
in all reality if this movement goes through it will be a huge hit to the American market of which it will not recover for a long time. .5 markers bought now would have to become used markers and start trickeling down to new players and thats not something that happens overnight like a switch to .5 could
not to mention the whole marble thing as stated above would be a problem for sure. i can see people buying those then turning down the velosity and treating it like airsoft but safety equipmant would not be built to stand up to marbles
this smells rotten already
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blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
It's a move SP is making for two reasons: profit and profit.
really, though, their best case scenario is that it takes off and they sell more guns. their backup plan is to market it to airsoft players. that's where the GI Milsim line comes in.
personally, i'm steering well clear of it.
it's another terrible move by SP that will cause confusion and damage to the paintball community so they can make a few bucks.
if they are trying to expand the euorpean market sure but i highly doubt this will take off over here, fields would drop like flies if they switched to .5 overnight, nobody would come to them, and if they run a split of .5 and .68 it would still hurt buisness, since i dont see you being able to run both in the same game, if your running .5 cal to get the same distance you would have to be shooting above 300fps which would be an advantage to those people useing .5, if .5s are being shot at 300fps they have a range disadvantage so icant see them being used in the same game which would hurt buisness since you couldnt then play with anyone who shows up, you could only play with those who are using your caliber
if theres anyway we can get the word out to people that .5 is bogus we should
In Germany I'm pretty sure you have to have a hunting or firearms license to play paintball. Which is obviously ridiculous. If there are legal reasons why .68 can't be used by normal people then there's obviously a ton of incentive to switch to a legal alternative (.50) which could help paintball in the long run, even .68 cal.
Also if paintball goes to places where the currency is stronger it will help the American companies that cater to the Europeans/Japanese. Its not a bad move especially in those markets.
But here they're testing the market and paintballers are pretty stubborn, so unless the .50 cal gives big advantages (in price, performance or both), it will be relegated to the history books like .62 cal. Like I said, I could see it catering to the more budget oriented market, and .68 still being used for tournies and more serious paintballers.
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if it takes off elsewhere though from a buisness standpoint it wouldnt be wise to make both .68 and .5 cal markers. if everywhre else starts using .5 and the markets in other countries take off i can see them forcing this change on us weather we want it or not
if that happens all our gear would be worthless overnight, i would seriously consider getting out of the sport rather than spending another few grand buying new gear
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
Thats a scary thought trbo. In one night over a grand worth of my equipment would useless. (5 markers, 2 barrel kits, and 2 non-gravity hoppers).. I'd feel even worse for those that I know that have 2 grand or more into there equipment...
if it takes off elsewhere though from a buisness standpoint it wouldnt be wise to make both .68 and .5 cal markers. if everywhre else starts using .5 and the markets in other countries take off i can see them forcing this change on us weather we want it or not
if that happens all our gear would be worthless overnight, i would seriously consider getting out of the sport rather than spending another few grand buying new gear
None of that is true. At least explain your reasoning. 68 cal won't going away, because then a lot of players would go away, and they'd be losing customers.
In fact it would be wiser to make both .68 cal and .50 cal markers because they'd be appealing to more markets. They can't force this change on us, we'd have to start buying .50 cal guns and paint. And even then there's economic incentive to keep .68 around, because people will want to use their old guns. The vast majority of paintballs that have ever been shot are .68 cal, the vast majority of paintball guns around are in .68 cal, even if they stopped making .68 cal guns they'd still make .68 cal paint to cater to that market.
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if this makes paintball legal in other countries whereas before markers were seen as firearms due to the size of projectile, and if paintball takes off in those countries to the point it is here in the US, from a buisness standpoint it is much better to have 1 factory cranking out the same markers over 2 factories cranking out different markers.
and if all you can find tomorrow when you go out to buy paint is .5 rounds then yes they can force this on us. The market in the US would eventually come back if this happens its just a question of if the markets in countries that would have paintball if it were .5cal would support the industry while the American market rebounded
now im not saying any of this is likely, not at least while we are playing but from a buisness standpoint if you can get your product to new markets its a good thing BUT, i think this would only be tried by a select few companies trying to make more money and not by the industry as a whole, if that is the case it would be extremely hard to convince the companies over here to switch to .5 when they would only be losing money if they did
i have somewhere around 3-4k in gear (purchase price, resale would be much less obviously)
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
I must agree with Snow
If we, as the current players, will not switch to .50 cal, then .50 cal will never replace .68 cal
There is too big of a potential loss of all the current players just quitting, since most of us are just the everyday joe comming out for fun, and don't have the money to make the switch.
I do believe that .50 cal will come though, don't know how long it will last, or if it actually takes off, but .68 cal will not go away any time soon
ya, and if a few companies still make .68 paint when everyone else starts cranking out .5 those few companies will do VERY good considering everyone would now be coming to them for paint
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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
My theory is that this whole .50 thing will just end up hurting everyone as players hold off on new gear purchases until the dust settles and a winner emerges. I know when HDDVD and Bluray hit the market all I sold were DVD players because nobody wanted to be stuck with the losing format and DVDs were still available. Nobody has really given us as players a concrete reason to switch aside from smaller setups and more paint capacity but is that enough to make up for the many disadvantages? If they are trying to tap into the overseas market they could easily just sell adapter kits for their markers and sell .50 paint overseas this is why the entire thing reeks of ulterior motives to me.
I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
.50 cal?
