o man that video made me want to puke, what a poser
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I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
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32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
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more than sellout comes to my mind, posterchild maybe? used car salesman? douchbag?
the way he was pushing the shirts and crap made me sick, i was wondering is this really what the retail has come to? fashion and a popularity contest? i dont know about you guys but for some reason girls dont flock to me if i have anything paintball related on, i think i would get a hard on if one even knew what it was.
gosh i know paintball shouldnt be violent but i just want to shoot that guy with a hopper full of monsterball
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I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
what a toolbag. his idea of 'putting out feelers' to the MCB forum was by posting a thread entitled "Industry to move to .50 Caliber Paintballs, rendering classic guns useless." An intelligent conversation followed, wherein the MCB'ers predicted exactly what's going to happen with 50 cal - NOTHING - and rebuked Mike for his Chicken Little 'the sky is falling' attempts to cause panic and confusion.
i had never before watched one of this guy's videos. the first couple minutes completely wrecked any credibility or validity his opinion might have otherwise possessed.
that's the exact issue i have with mike. he's got good idea and intentions, but has terrible presentation. I'm keeping up with the MCB thread about this and it appears as if they all do admit they were a bit..harsh. (but that's what you get when you tell old school player that their toys won't work anymore)
Also the fact that TechPB is aimed at kids who are new to the sport. They watch a couple of Mike's videos, and become a member of the "TechPB is god, do not question it" club. Couple that with the fact that he comes across as arrogant a lot of the time, and seems to have the attitude that everyone else is wrong and he is right, and it becomes quite hard to filter through all the crap in his videos and respect him for the points he's making.
1) Some major companies (SP, Spyder, etc) will jump on this bandwagon, and at least one of them will make it standard, IE not produce .68 caliber guns anymore (prolly SP).
2) Other companies will follow after the SP hardcore/omgit'snewihavetohaveit idiots start making SP's stock's jump sky-high
3) At least 1 major tournament will make it illegal to use .68 paintballs.
4) More anti-standard filth will be spewed about how .68's are inherently dangerous, despite players having used them for years and years with very little injury (barring stupidity).
5) Most, if not all, of the paintball manufacturers will convert to .50 caliber, to reap the profits.
6) Here's the key thing: The people who actually make paintballs will cut deals with the marker/accessory manufacturers, and stop making .68 caliber balls. If you don't have any paintballs to shoot, you will be forced to convert. There will always be air tanks, and the old markers aren't consumables; the paintballs are though, and there will be a finite supply of them; once they are gone, they will be gone.
7) Fast forward about 8 years past the demise of .68, and the powers-that-be will decide that the .50 is just too "unsafe" and will start the conversion to a new, completely redesigned paintball system.
TLDR; This will probably be forced upon us, because without .68 balls being produced, your .68 markers will be useless, unless you know someone that can make them for you.
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Lol no. The players choose what to buy. They can make all the 50 cal crap they want, but that doesn't mean it will succeed, and 68 cal will always be made. So far the only parties even on this under-performing bandwagon are the bankrupt SP and their dirty business partner Richmond Italia. We honestly have nothing to worry about. 50 cal won't last, if it even makes it to market.
Spyder has also announced they're making a .50 cal marker, so they're on.
Personally, I hope people are smart enough to avoid buying it in droves and it probes to be nothing but a complete and total waste of money for all those companies involved that are trying to shove it down our throats.
If it does launch I wouldn't want to play at the same time with a guy who has 500+rds in his loader and 300+ per pod in speed or woodsball thats a big advantage if you have 68 vs 50. It should be 50 vs 50 and 68 vs 68 IMO.
Read the Article by one of the most respected men in paintball ever -- Steve Davidson : 50 Caliber Paintballs Part One to learn some of the history of the .50cal paintball evolution.
My take on the whole thing:
SP is falling apart with money problems and negative brand recognition/reputation so the Gardner's, who despite what you may think, are not stupid in terms of business development, are jumping ship from the SP branded markers. This is well documented. Procaps/Draxxus also is struggling as X-ball and the PSP are not the money makers that Rich thought they would be. So the Gardners are abandoning the SP name brand in favor of the DLX and GI Milsim brands, and they are in bed with Rich Italia as well hanging their hat on the .50cal markers they are developing. Part of their marketing strategy is to push this "New" and "Better" standard on an easily swayed market ignorant population who only believe what they see in magazine ads and internet viral videos as they foisted the ION on us as one of the saviors of the marketplace. Well, Mike from TechPb is the latest weapon bought and paid for by the new and improved Gardner brothers GI Milsim company. What would you expect him to say?
Frankly, in an industry that is full of fads, fashions, and posers, is it any wonder that this bandwagon is being discussed with as much bipartisan diatribe as you will find in the halls of government. .50 cal is a niche, fad, flash in the pan. It didn't work in 1989, and despite however you massage the data all you want, it won't work in 2009.
I like Medics take on this. The fads in paintball a huge, and this is just another one.
I was watching the tech pb video with Sell out Lasoya, and I notice at how little paint was on mike when he got lite up. Litterally he got shot with 10 to 15 balls and had very little paint on him untill he shot himself point blank (Still not sure why he did that)....
It seems the mark left when hitting a flat surface is good, but really, its hitting people that count, and it appeared to me that a lot of them bounced. As a pump player, I dont plan on switching.
Read the Article by one of the most respected men in paintball ever -- Steve Davidson : 50 Caliber Paintballs Part One to learn some of the history of the .50cal paintball evolution.
My take on the whole thing:
SP is falling apart with money problems and negative brand recognition/reputation so the Gardner's, who despite what you may think, are not stupid in terms of business development, are jumping ship from the SP branded markers. This is well documented. Procaps/Draxxus also is struggling as X-ball and the PSP are not the money makers that Rich thought they would be. So the Gardners are abandoning the SP name brand in favor of the DLX and GI Milsim brands, and they are in bed with Rich Italia as well hanging their hat on the .50cal markers they are developing. Part of their marketing strategy is to push this "New" and "Better" standard on an easily swayed market ignorant population who only believe what they see in magazine ads and internet viral videos as they foisted the ION on us as one of the saviors of the marketplace. Well, Mike from TechPb is the latest weapon bought and paid for by the new and improved Gardner brothers GI Milsim company. What would you expect him to say?
Frankly, in an industry that is full of fads, fashions, and posers, is it any wonder that this bandwagon is being discussed with as much bipartisan diatribe as you will find in the halls of government. .50 cal is a niche, fad, flash in the pan. It didn't work in 1989, and despite however you massage the data all you want, it won't work in 2009.
There's a whole thing about this on MCB that says the .50 cal is, so far, inferior to .68 cal because it doesn't break as well or leave as big a mark.
Apparently, we've already gotten to the point of getting paintball shells as thin as possible without loosing structural strength, so putting the same thickness shell on a smaller ball will make it harder to break.
They did a drop test with .68 cal and .50 cal, and also shot someone from varying distances with .50 cal and found that it only breaks at around a 90ft max distance or something like that.
.50 can might make it for field rentals and indoor fields that are smaller and don't want such a huge mess, but I seriously believe that once people start seeing .50 cal in action, the everyday baller will stick with .68
in today's economy, why should field owners or players feel compelled to switch to an inferior product? i'm not interested in fattening the pockets of SP.
heres how i see it, even if SP and a few other major manufacturers switch to a full 50 cal lineup they stull can not control the whole paint market, all we would need is a few companies to still produce 68 and that would be the end of the 50 cal "revolution" with everyone going to these few compainies for paint all of a sudden their demand would skyrocket, prices for paint would most likely go up for a time, but with so much income they could easily expand and grow, and if they have such a huge market share all of a sudden any buy out attempts by SP or another manufacturer of 50 cal would be laughed at, if they are even remotely intelegent (which they would be by staying in 68 cal already) they would easily see they could make MUCH more money producing 68 than accepting a buy out
mike made a good point for rentals but i wish he would have gone into the physics a bit rather than ranting on about that forum, grow up Mike
the end of that link Medic provided is very thought provoking, if you havnt read it is basically says that 50 will force more close quarters combat since the range is not as good, and having people battle elbow to elbow is not going to help things
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I'm not going to lie if I were rich and famous I'd be running people over with my car all the damn time.
blue to black dm6
hyper 3
top hat mod
laser eyes
CP flow plug
32 degrees drop forward (yes i like my drop forwards)
cp micro on/off asa
deadly winds 14" fibur barrel with full freak
Dye rotor with speed feed
centerflag 68/4500 with on/off
.50 cal?
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