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Old October 19th, 10:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is the Proto EL Mask good?

It says it has a fog proof visor but it doesn't say it's thermal. Should I get one that is thermal or is this mask good enough?
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Old October 19th, 10:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A thermal and comfortable mask is one of the best investments a paintballer can make.

I really like the proflex. But any mask thats comfortable, breathes well, and is thermal will do. Also a fog proof visor is ridiculous, its a visor, it just keeps the sun out of your eyes.
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Old October 19th, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It should be fine. If you want some extra protection from fogging, get the spray. It only helps a little, but I think with that you should be set.
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Old October 19th, 11:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've got the Proto Switch which is essentially the same goggle. I love it, mine didn't originally come with the thermal lens and it was fine for the first season. We play every week after 5 pm. Only late into the season and evening did I start to have fogging issues (mind you I live in the mountains and it goes for 80 degrees at 5:00 to 60 degrees at 7:00.) For my second season I bought a replacement thermal lens (worth every penny.) By the way my Switch came with a turbo fan (it was included as a special) that is definitely NOT worth it. It did nothing but make a LOUD buzzing.
I have since bought a DYE I3 which I guess some would consider the Switch's big brother (lot's of pro's used them before the I4) but I still mostly wear the Switch. For me between the two the Switch is way easier to maintain, it's quick release system makes popping out the lens a breeze which makes cleaning a breeze. The I3 is VERY difficult to maintain.

By the way always use ONLY water to clean your lenses, any sprays and anti-fog solutions just remove the factory anti-fog. I was neurotic about keeping my lenses clean and after every evening and sometimes between games I would clean them inside and out with my prescription glass cleaner (if it's good enough for my glasses, must be good enough for my goggles...right?) WRONG! I couldn't figure out why I kept fogging, then I read the instructions that came with my goggles "clean only with clear water." I was constantly putting catcrap (google it) on my non thermal lenses and they would still fog up almost before I had them on my face. Now I only use water and a clean microfiber cloth they take me through a entire evening with no problems.

Buy a cheap spray bottle fill it with clean water and get a microfiber cloth for when you're on the field. Only use it to clean the outside of the lenses at the field. Take your goggles apart when you get home and rinse them under the sink. The factory coating will last a lot long that way.

Remember most manufacturers recommend replacing the lens once a season and especially after taking a direct hit. Obviously you can make your own judgment. Personally I replace my lens once a season, I find by the end of the season, even with care, I've either scratched them and/or washed off all the protective anti-fog. As for the direct hit I've taken a few and I didn't feel like it was a hard enough impact to warrant replacement. Just remember in a direct hit the lens must dissipate a tremendous amount of force, and sometimes that force can create micro-fractures, so of course the question is,what price do you put on your vision?
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Old October 19th, 11:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry I guess they are all Proto Switch goggles mine is the Switch FS and the one you're asking about is the Switch EL. About the only thing that I can see in difference is the the EL comes standard with the non thermal pane lens and pretty much solid coloring. Otherwise it's a great mask upgrade next season to a thermal pane lens.

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