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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry if this shouldn't be in general, didn't seem to fit under customization or other equipment unless I missed something.

So I'm still running my old trusty Tippmann .68 Carbine. One of the upgrades I have on it is a stock, one that looks like -this. Now for the .68 and the stock I have you are supposed to glue your normal velocity adjuster in place and then you use the stock to adjust the velocity. You do this by using a very long allen wrench (or hex key, or whatever you prefer to call it) through a hole in in the back of the stock. It's kind of a pain actually, but it does work.

However, at my last game I lost this wrench after probably close to 10 years of keeping track of it. So far I have been unable to find any replacement. If you look at the picture of the stock it has to be almost as long as the stock itself to reach. Since I've owned the gun and upgrade for so long the place I bought it from isn't even around anymore so I don't even know what brand/model etc. the stock is and currently don't even know the size I would need. I can't even seem to find ones long enough that they would work if I did know the size. The stock does not come apart for me to look into in any way I've figured out and I can't find any model number or anything on it.

Any suggestions? My current best bet seems to be to get the original velocity adjustment screw loose again and just start using that if I have to.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry if this shouldn't be in general, didn't seem to fit under customization or other equipment unless I missed something.

So I'm still running my old trusty Tippmann .68 Carbine. One of the upgrades I have on it is a stock, one that looks like -this. Now for the .68 and the stock I have you are supposed to glue your normal velocity adjuster in place and then you use the stock to adjust the velocity. You do this by using a very long allen wrench (or hex key, or whatever you prefer to call it) through a hole in in the back of the stock. It's kind of a pain actually, but it does work.

However, at my last game I lost this wrench after probably close to 10 years of keeping track of it. So far I have been unable to find any replacement. If you look at the picture of the stock it has to be almost as long as the stock itself to reach. Since I've owned the gun and upgrade for so long the place I bought it from isn't even around anymore so I don't even know what brand/model etc. the stock is and currently don't even know the size I would need. I can't even seem to find ones long enough that they would work if I did know the size. The stock does not come apart for me to look into in any way I've figured out and I can't find any model number or anything on it.

Any suggestions? My current best bet seems to be to get the original velocity adjustment screw loose again and just start using that if I have to.
Try mesuring you stock and the when you know the length got to your local hardwere store or paintball shop and ask if they have a hex key that long or even maybey google what lenght it is and youl know

Thats what i would do
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Try mesuring you stock and the when you know the length got to your local hardwere store or paintball shop and ask if they have a hex key that long or even maybey google what lenght it is and youl know

Thats what i would do
I have tried looking before I posted here. Local hardware shops don't have anything near long enough and so far I haven't had much luck with Google either. Starting to post on Paintball forums as a bit of a last resort.

(The 9" set Amazon has is not long enough before someone posts it for me. )
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Was it the stock made by Allen Paintball Products? They are still around if you haven't tried asking them yet.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 09:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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aww you beat me to it, I was going to suggest that you try asking the company to get a new one.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Do you know what size you need? Such as Length and what size allen wrench?

The company Bondhus makes 14inch t-handles. However, they only have a select few sizes they advertise. I think 3mm, 4mm,5mm,6mm and 8mm.


If nothing else, they can custom make any size you want. However, that would probably be expensive.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 10:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'll take a much closer look at it when I get home tonight. I'll do some measuring and take another stab at trying to dismantle it so I can find out the exact size needed and at least what company made it.

Thanks for the ideas guys.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 01:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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you pay shipping both ways and include $10 and send me the allen wrench you want and I will weld you a custom T handle if you need it, Ill temper it as well
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you pay shipping both ways and include $10 and send me the allen wrench you want and I will weld you a custom T handle if you need it, Ill temper it as well
I may take you up on that if I can ever figure out what size I need. Looked at it more last night, can't take it apart and it has NO brand/maker/model or anything on it anywhere.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 01:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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well if you have a standard set of allen wrenches just take the stock off and figure out what size you need and then what length you need minimum and what size of hole the T wrench needs to fit through so I dont use too thick of stock for the extension piece

heck it may be easier for me to just go buy a set or i may have some old sets kicking around that are missing a few sizes if you are lucky and i do have the size you need, that way you dont have to pay shipping to me

let me know, I cant guarantee a fast turn around on this though, I am in school and have a decent chunk of projects going on right now but I would need word within the next few weeks as school will be over early june and with it my access to the welding shop and jewelry studio, at least until fall that is
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well if you have a standard set of allen wrenches just take the stock off and figure out what size you need
I need to figure out how to dismantle it to do that which so far I haven't been able to. The adjustment is IN the stock, which is why you need a like 10"+ t-handle. Not the best designed idea, but it's always worked. The drive spring for the .68 inserts into a hole in the front of the stock when you screw it on so that's how you adjust your velocity with the stock.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ok i see, thats tricky

I guess you are going to have to track down the size

you could sacrifice a set of allen keys, hack off the end and just glue it to something to stick down in there and see if it fits, if you find the right one just mail me that and I can take the rest from there, either that or get some JB weld and epoxy something onto it and that should hold I would imagine, only issue is without softening the steel of the allen key it is going to be hard to cut through, a dremil with some cut off disks Id imagine is your best bet
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Well made a little progress at least, the stock is definitely not made to come apart and for sure has absolutely no indication of the brand it is.

But I did some measuring, the hole in the back you insert it into is about 4mm round as close as I can measure. Also the length the allen wrench will need to make it is about 8 inches. I'm thinking a 9" one might work IF I strip off part of the handle near the end if I can't find a longer one. Since I can order a 3mm and 4mm off Amazon for <$5 (free Prime shipping) I will just give that a try and post back in a few days.

*edit* Actually, now that I know better what I'm looking for I managed to find a 3mm, 14" one. Maybe I will luck out after all.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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unless im mistaken all timmann stuff is in imperial units, it was made in the US when the 68 carbine came out
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Old April 26th, 2012, 03:59 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Take an allen rench that fits the bolt an weld it onto another piece of medal giving it the length. Thats what us country folks would do.
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Old April 27th, 2012, 01:07 PM   #16 (permalink)
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problem is once you weld on tool steel you are also tempering it so it is MUCH more likely to strip
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The actual tip of the allen wrench that is put in the screw wouldn't actually be welded, if he had a 5 inch one already, the tip would be 4 or 5 inches from the welded part.
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Old April 27th, 2012, 03:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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which is still too close, espechally for something that thin, if it was a lot thicker then sure but its not
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