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Old January 8th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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question to everyone about future product

Hello everyone
I want to ask you all what is the most desirable item in paintball market that most of you would like to have, but doesn't have opportunity to buy.
If you imagine good marker then what are your expectations in terms of visual look (i am thinking of conversion kits to specific model), or design tendencies-futuristic, old fashioned, heavy machinery type, or light and slim

In terms of accessories what upgrade to existing would you like to have, additional features, options, maybe some protection gear? useful parts, costumizing?


I really appreciate your thoughts, the more specific the better (type specific models or references if possible ). When you make your decision to buy some products are you waiting to see what manufacturers may offer or in most cases you have your idea of how it should be or look like?

What do i need that for?, I would like to come out with someting nice as design entrepreneur. Due fact that paintball industry is very broad i wish to know what you think about it.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unless it is a brand new product that is innovative, affordable and completely different than anything else on the market, think you'll have a hard time selling. You are pretty broad in what you are asking. Are you wanting to make a new marker? Are you wanting to produce upgrades for a specific marker?

I would like a flying drone that I could use that would fire paintballs - with a HUD for my mask.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 12:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would like a Duck. I wouldn't recommend getting into that niche market, but that's what I want. What else? Maybe an Aardvark 'Trix, too. More custom 'cockers. Probably nothing that is feasible or would make you money...
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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I wouldn't mind a new MacDev or Matrix...


As far as upgrades for my current stuff goes - or bolt on aesthetics?
eah. most of the manufacturers out there are doing a great job with that already. I mean - you aren't going to do much more than shave a few ounces off an ETEK. TecT has already done something to soften the 'crack' sound signature of the bolt. Really - only thing I could think to want would be a grip frame that would allow the user to determine what style ASA goes on.... or a metal upgrade kit (since it had been discontinued). Maybe carbon fiber or metal trigger kit too. I'm not a huge fan of the delrin.


Far as a PRR (my other current mid-range) goes... I'd like to see a body kit & LPR available that fits on a UL3 frame...that's milled to accept the bolt-on accent pieces and stickers that are currently on the PRR... but this would basically be throwing out the uppers and tossing a Matrix top on a PRR UL3 frame....would be a different story if balanced and unbalanced spools didn't behave so differently...and could utilize a 3way noid to do 4 functions.



Sadly - I don't see there being much of a market for very many items anymore. Markers have become a lot more self contained....fewer moving pieces... less room for change. Manufacturers are also (as seen in the ETEK4's vReg & ASA) moving more towards proprietary threading or attachments to negate margins that were once able to be had by standardization within paintball. Really - all that's left are bolt on accessories & body kits - which you'll find from the majority of this forum's regulars...to be bolting on a disadvantage...weight - Or markets already saturated by established products...TecT, Custom Products, St!ffi, etc.

as far as things I'd like to see -
*A balanced spool - purchased NEW - at mid-range price.
*A loader made of the same material type as a Rotor, but with better capacity and nicer price
*A more affordable bore & barrel kit - that doesn't include huge inserts that are no longer useful.
*Affordable gear bags. Sketcher's can make luggage for $35 for under-plane stow...Not saying $35 is a price point.. but $200 shouldn't be either....its a luggage with a zippered pocket...heh.


Honestly - the business idea I had - were rare-earth magnet attached mask hooks. Carabeaner on the elastic strap - stiff rubber eyelet hook - attached to the magnet...on a cloth strap . Other end has a second magnet in it - to hold this harness in place...but from the inside of your pants. Since its a rubber eyelet and magnetically attached - it has break-away capability if you're sliding atop it - to prevent injury. It isn't made of metal to avoid injury. It won't damage your pants, and is able to be positioned as directed by preference.

Had the idea because I got tired of dinging my lens against the ground when it fell off a pod in my harness. After looking into prototyping and time costs...along with basic math...

say 100 people play paintball with gear.
15% or so (per field forums) are airballers.
figure 10% market saturation for the product
1.5% of paintballers or... maybe 2 people of that 100 would buy my product...to hang their mask?

lol.

Yeah - I'll end up making it eventually - probably posting a tutorial on here too...but full line production? nah.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 04:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Start up ICD again, and you'll have my interest.

Honestly, you're almost going to have to create a need for whatever you develop; I can't think of anything I need, or even desire. There's gotta be a way to stop cheating completely, but darned if anyone has yet to come up with a way to do it.
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Old January 9th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd like to see a really innovative, reasonably priced Dye Matrix, but I'm just dreaming here.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 06:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I would like to be able to take my phantom walk out side and shoot squirrels with a paintball with like bb's or something inside so i can get them suckers away and play with my paintball gun
I would like to have a fresh 5000psi tank and an adjustable regulator
A compressor that is relativly small
I would like to have tank that can use co2 and compressed air depending on the avalaibility
A 100 rd electronic extremely lightweight hopper for pump guns
And finally paint that will fly straight no matter the conditions minus wind
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Old January 11th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would like to have a fresh 5000psi tank and an adjustable regulator ninja makes fantastic adjustable regulators
A compressor that is relativly small http://www.shoeboxcompressor.com/
I would like to have tank that can use co2 and compressed air depending on the avalaibility you can already do this, you just need to swap the tank regulator for a CO2 valve
some of these already exist
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Ninja doesnt make a 5000psi regulator
I didnt know that you could trade it that easily
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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hpa > co2 yes, it really is that easy. co2 > hpa, no.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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where are you getting 5k fills that necessitate the use of such regulator?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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hpa > co2 yes, it really is that easy. co2 > hpa, no.
yes, i shoulda clarified this. do not try to fill a co2 tank with compressed air. it's VERY dangerous.
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where are you getting 5k fills that necessitate the use of such regulator?
Agreed. NOONE makes a 5K regulator for paintball because NOTHING uses 5K psi. Only a select few ever went above 850 psi (during the heyday of Mags a few were made that could be adjusted up for pneumags), most now are either adjustable or 850 fixed with a few being others. It's the TANK that you'd need to be rated for 5K, the reg would still be the same as the normal one.
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Old January 14th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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My tank has a 850psi out put but it hold 5000psi
I wish i could get an adjustable regulator for this tank where i could keep the possible pressure
My local store fills tanks all the way up for like $2
I walk in with 3 tanks and get them all filled for $5 because everybody knows me and i get a team discount on everything
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My tank has a 850psi out put but it hold 5000psi
I wish i could get an adjustable regulator for this tank where i could keep the possible pressure
My local store fills tanks all the way up for like $2
I walk in with 3 tanks and get them all filled for $5 because everybody knows me and i get a team discount on everything
ninja sells adjustable regulators.

they've not make 5k tanks in quite some time. what tank do you have?
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Old January 15th, 2013, 04:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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ya but regulators are also rated for the tank pressure, more regs say 4500psi on them.

but ya, nobody fills to 5k anyway so it is kind of a moot point
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Old January 15th, 2013, 05:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Evil scion made 5000psi tanks and so did crossfire. Mine is a 45cu 5000psi
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