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AwesomeOpossum · January 10th, 2013, 08:48 PM

Some of you more experienced folks won't care about this, but ...

My sister and her boyfriend decided to get into paintball after going out to the woods with me a few weeks ago. They managed a used Tippman 98 Custom and a Tippman A-5 complete with what I believe is a Cyclone feeder, 2 20oz bottles, and 2 masks for $100 total. I think they made a good deal. The markers belonged to her brother, and I believe had been ill cared for. They were both filthy. Not knowing really how much they'd been used (I think quite a bit), or if they'd ever been torn down (I doubt it), we went ahead and proceeded to tear down the C98.

The first pic is of the internals before cleaning. Very greasy, and it was obvious dirt encrusted inside. We cleaned it all up using denatured alcohol on the metal parts, replaced o-rings, and reassembled it. While we had it apart, my sister decided she wanted to paint it white. Unfortunately, I didn't get any pics of the outside before it was cleaned. Needless to say ... yuck.

We took it out for some test shots on the old oak in the back yard. No air leaks, and it's working pretty darn well.

(In case you noticed, yes, one of the screws at the rear is missing. Damn it if we couldn't find it anywhere. We kept everything together, so I think a poltergeist is playing tricks. Will have to get a replacement.)

Do good?

***martix_agent*** · January 10th, 2013, 08:52 PM

looks pretty good. Every once and a while a good cleaning is in order; your doesn't look as dirty as you make it sound. Remember to lube it back up though with paintball or air tool oil.

For $100, that's not a bad deal for both the markers. Looks like somebody has spraypainted your 98 white, as that's not a stock color.

tlmiller · January 10th, 2013, 10:04 PM

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looks pretty good. Every once and a while a good cleaning is in order; your doesn't look as dirty as you make it sound. Remember to lube it back up though with paintball or air tool oil.

For $100, that's not a bad deal for both the markers. Looks like somebody has spraypainted your 98 white, as that's not a stock color.

Although honestly, it should be. They look so much nicer white.

**huckduck** · January 10th, 2013, 10:19 PM

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While we had it apart, my sister decided she wanted to paint it white. Unfortunately, I didn't get any pics of the outside before it was cleaned. Needless to say ... yuck.

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Looks like somebody has spraypainted your 98 white, as that's not a stock color.

rofl.... comprehension fail?

***martix_agent*** · January 10th, 2013, 10:29 PM

reading fail!
I'm terrible at reading. That is to say, reading everything in full.

**Angered Fists** · January 11th, 2013, 10:18 AM

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My sister and her boyfriend decided to get into paintball

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The markers belonged to her brother

You sold them to her?

AwesomeOpossum · January 11th, 2013, 11:24 AM

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You sold them to her?

Oh, LOL! I have to laugh at myself for that. She was adopted into my family, hence I am her brother by adoption. Her biological brother sold them to her and her boyfriend.

AwesomeOpossum · January 11th, 2013, 11:31 AM

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Remember to lube it back up though with paintball or air tool oil.

I put about 5 drops of paintball oil into the hole where the air canister connects. Is that sufficient?

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reading fail!
I'm terrible at reading. That is to say, reading everything in full.

Heh, you're forgiven.

***dprimmy*** · January 11th, 2013, 12:10 PM

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I put about 5 drops of paintball oil into the hole where the air canister connects. Is that sufficient?

For the lubing of the internals (cupseal(or whatever its called in a tippmann), the ASA, and connecting o-rings - yes.

The remainder of the moving parts should still have a fine coat of lube on them though. The hammer has to slide against a metal clamshell, so some lube in the hammer's travel pathway wouldn't hurt, along with a small amount on the hammer o-ring.... and since I don't think the power tube's plastic is Delrin...well...I haven't hurt mine by lubing that too...along with the bolt/hammer linkage path at the top of the marker.

My general rule (which has huge exceptions everywhere and can't be verbatim by any means)...is - if it moves...it gets lubed.

Trigger pieces can't hurt, though don't over-lube the sear...and every so often just make sure there's something on the ball latch. If that dries out, you'll have huge roll-out issues and need to replace the latch. They aren't expensive - just inconvenient to replace.

AwesomeOpossum · January 11th, 2013, 12:16 PM

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For the lubing of the internals (cupseal(or whatever its called in a tippmann), the ASA, and connecting o-rings - yes.

The remainder of the moving parts should still have a fine coat of lube on them though. The hammer has to slide against a metal clamshell, so some lube in the hammer's travel pathway wouldn't hurt, along with a small amount on the hammer o-ring.... and since I don't think the power tube's plastic is Delrin...well...I haven't hurt mine by lubing that too...along with the bolt/hammer linkage path at the top of the marker.

My general rule (which has huge exceptions everywhere and can't be verbatim by any means)...is - if it moves...it gets lubed.

Trigger pieces can't hurt, though don't over-lube the sear...and every so often just make sure there's something on the ball latch. If that dries out, you'll have huge roll-out issues and need to replace the latch. They aren't expensive - just inconvenient to replace.

Good info. Thank you.

**snowboarder599** · January 11th, 2013, 02:04 PM

I usually have the opposite problem with hardware. I ALWAYS finish and think, "Where did this screw go?". That's a pretty sweet deal though. Honestly, I'm in the mindset that I can't over lube. I put a a pretty generous amount of lube in all my markers, and I'm yet to have a problem. I'd rather have too much than not enough.

tlmiller · January 11th, 2013, 02:06 PM

I take it you've never owned SFT/NXT Shockers then? They're HORRIBLE if you lube too much.

***dprimmy*** · January 11th, 2013, 02:12 PM

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I usually have the opposite problem with hardware. I ALWAYS finish and think, "Where did this screw go?". That's a pretty sweet deal though. Honestly, I'm in the mindset that I can't over lube. I put a a pretty generous amount of lube in all my markers, and I'm yet to have a problem. I'd rather have too much than not enough.

Never had problems/issues with overlubing a spool and sending all that 33 straight through to the noid and out the barrel?

With the air-tool oil, outside of 400% saturation on an o-ring, you really can't put too much on/in. The only thing to worry about is the lube dripping out the marker and onto your clothes.

For 33/55/clones etc... some things I gob in lube, others I wonder if I even put lube on the item the coat is so thin. My Reflex Rail HATES being overlubed and misbehaves badly if she is. The Vert Reg on my Etek...thrives on it for shot consistency.. loves it some "Gooey Lube"... as the lady-friend coined it...

**snowboarder599** · January 11th, 2013, 03:13 PM

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I take it you've never owned SFT/NXT Shockers then? They're HORRIBLE if you lube too much.

I use a Luxe if that counts? I don't glob it on the rings, but I make sure that everyone is covered, and I put some on the bolt too. No problems yet!