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Old June 21st, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I e-mailed the lazer tag people...

there is a thread around here about 'Lazer Skirmish'
(coughcough*POSERPAINTBALL*coughcough)
and I e-mailed them. Here's my e-mail to them:

Dear battlefieldsports.com,
My name is Peter Turley and I am an avid Paintball player. I was on an online paintball discussion board, and your sport was being discussed. I went to your site (very nicely put togeather I might add) and I read about your sport(game?) with an open mind. I found several problems with your description of paintball, especially under the ' vs. paintball' section. Paintball was born in 1981 in the woods, and it stayed there for several years. For some time it was looked upon by the press and the rest of the world as a dangerous and exceedingly violent sport, played by ex-marines who had a thirst for blood. While this was totoally untrue, the world still thought so. 23 years later, Paintball is a huge sport played by everyone. Men and women, old and young, even the physically challeged can play the sport. There are several leagues(check www.nppl.tv or www.pspevents.com for some more information), Tournaments, and multi-milliondollar corporations who all contribute to the image of the sport of Paintball. As you can see, paintball is no longer the sport it was 23 years ago. The 'guns' (or so referred to on your site) are called 'markers'. Eye and face/ear protection is mandatory to play everywhere, and there are no 'killings'.
from your site:
"Favorable Legal Position

Because lasertag equipment is not considered firearms or even replicas, there are far less legal issues. In some parts of the world paintball is outlawed or restricted to people above a certain age. For example in the State of Victoria in Australia, players have to be at least 18 years old and have a firearms license before they can legally participate in paintball. In the United States, players generally have to be 10 years or older. According to USA Today at least nine US States limit the use of paintball guns by minors, with the most recent ordinance being passed by Alpharetta, Georgia, see the full story. Likewise other incidents - some life threatening have been associated with paintball weapons being unlawfully or unsafely discharged."



Paintball markers are far from weapons. A weapon is an object used to intentionally hurt, or kill a person or living animal. The paintball players who have read this also agree that you should change the word to 'markers'.





from the site:

"Paintball has really led the way until now in the combat simulation market with an annual US growth rate of 25% over the last 3 years."

True, paintball may LOOK like a 'combat simulator', but without question it is totoally different than war. Paintball is now quite different than sports/games like the one you promote. It is not simulating war, nor is it based on violence. It's the little things like that which will make paintball illegalized. Again, the many other players and i would appreciate it if you would edit this out of your site, or at least revise it.

Thank you for your time, and I hope you do well i business.

Sincerely, Peter Turley






here's their letter back:



Thanks for your feedback,

You will find that in many parts of the world, paintball markers are described legally as air guns which are weapons. The term paintball marker is a misnomer from a legal perspective. We have indeed found in many parts of the world outside lasertag can be played legally where paintball can't.

Within the paintball community there are indeed large groups of players trying to make it a normal sport, however there are still legions of players especially teenagers that see it as a combat simulator. In fact many paintball fields have Vietnam villagers and the like to do hard core realistic scenario games. We are definitely in the combat simulation category as well as we go for the computer gamers market that a brought up on realistic action first person perspective shooters. We love doing combat simulation games.

Peter Lander
www.battlefieldsports.com
www.laserskirmish.com
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http://www.laserskirmish.com/0403lockandload.pdf






WOW, TOTOALLY BLEW ME OFF!!!
how not cool is that?
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Old June 21st, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I personally like the combat side of paintball. I like RAP4 markers and wearing camouflage and sitting in the middle of a swamp trying to pick off the "enemy'.

I dont care if people think paintball is a wargame. I think wargames would be fun. But, paintball ISNT a wargame, and the only reason I defend it as not being a wargame is becuase people would try to make it illegal.

Speedball is far from a wargame.

Combat:

-Stealth
-Accuraccy
-Taking your time getting the objective done the right way


Speedball:

-Fast-paced
-26 BPS
-Shoot anythign that moves
-Scream out the opponents positions


Speedball would be terrible combat simulation. We don't need soldiers screaming out in the middle of a night-op.

The guy you emailed has issues and is the kind of guy that wants to make everything but cricket and golf illegal and thins that sport cars and rock music is going to destroy the world.
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Old June 21st, 08:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old June 21st, 08:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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wow nice letter dude...very well said
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Old June 21st, 08:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yea i laughed at that lol
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Old June 21st, 09:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Proof-read and spell check your email next time. Otherwise, nicely put together.
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Old June 21st, 11:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Lazer tag sucks. I bet that guy never even player nor touched a paintball marker. You're not even allowed to run in lazer tag, how gay is that? Let's kill this guy!

jk

But really, maybe whoever paid that hacker who hacked our site should get him to hack his site lol, those are the type of sites that need a hackjob.
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Old June 22nd, 10:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old June 22nd, 10:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow, that's pretty crappy that he blew you off like that. I wish people would untie their panties when it comes to the whole paintball vs combat thing. It's a game, get over it.
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Old June 22nd, 12:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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When i emailed them i never got a response back. But mine was really aggresive and actively attacked comments on their website.
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Old June 22nd, 12:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Bet we could get them to change there description of paint-ball if we had like everyone chain email them the same message. :O
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Old June 22nd, 01:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Or we could do it by all emailing DIFFERENT messages, that are all completely thought out, spell checked and grammar checked. All of them would also be at least 3 paragraphs long, and calmly explains what paintball really is. Then, he might change it.
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Old June 22nd, 01:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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lazer taggers are ****ing doosh bags THE MILITARY USES LAZER TAG TO SIMULATE WAR AND DO WAR GAMES MORE OFTHEN THAN PAINTBALL AND THEY STRAPP THE **** ONTO TANKS AND MORTORS!!!! they piss me off

we should have a "war" between paintballers and lazer taggers...i wonder who would win, hmmm.....
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Old June 22nd, 04:03 PM   #14 (permalink)
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thanks for the support guys
i was going to replay last night but I was to tired to think straight. Yea, if you e-mail them don't be aggressive; i got an immediate response because I treated him like an equal and didn't bash the sport... but i did take on shot at him, but not openly- i said
'sport' then i editied it to say "...sport(game?)..."
tee hee not a very big dis, but still it wud bug me.
O well- i'm not too worried about it considering the following quote from their site:
"In our experience, young boys love getting the biggest blasters available!"
^^they actually say that on their site
If that's on their homepage, then their little game won't put much of a dent in the image of out awsome sport.
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Old June 22nd, 09:37 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Lazer tag was fun until i was 11. Then I realized that getting spammed by 8 year old who follow you around sucks. So does: not running, crawling, crouching etc....

Paintball > Lazer Tag
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paintball>everything (excapt sex and jesus)
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Old June 23rd, 11:52 AM   #17 (permalink)
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paintball>everything (excapt sex and jesus)
:O! paintball owns jesus X10. (not to offend anyone)
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how can possibly try to describe lazertag as a game(not a sport) when not questioning PB being a sport. other than that...good job
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Lazer tag IS a GAME its not a SPORT if they think its a sport they need to be bunkered
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