View Poll Results: Forced Limit on BPS?
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Hell no! I want to shoot solid strings of paint
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Yes! Limited PBs will even the field for everyone
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I don't care. Let people shoot whatever they want.
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June 23rd, 03:16 PM
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PGP me
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: South Carolina
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Put a BPS limit on markers?
In the neverending "arms" race to buy faster shooting guns I personally feel that things are getting out of hand. When considering the potential for overshooting someone or the difficulty in movement when there are 150BPS flying through the air (10 players * 15 BPS) it seems like the game would be more fun if there was a low limit to how many paintballs per second could be fired per person. Why is it that people always seem to want the fastest shooting gun? Most of the people that I've talked to want faster guns so that they can compare with or outshoot the competition. This would all be a moot point if everyone was limited to 5BPS. Why/would this ruin the game for you if everyone else was also limited? I would love to see things go back to pump limited but it'll never happen. Those games are much more intense!
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June 23rd, 03:21 PM
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I Vore You
Join Date: May 2003
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I paid for it, and it was a lot more than a 5 bps tippmann nub cannon. It's gonna shoot faster. You sound jealous.
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June 23rd, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
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I like rthe idea, but if you don't like the idea you can always go to pump.
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June 23rd, 03:22 PM
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PGP me
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Nope. Just looking for honest opinions. Why did you feel the need to spend so much?
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June 23rd, 03:25 PM
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I Vore You
Join Date: May 2003
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Speed.
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June 23rd, 03:28 PM
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PGP me
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Welcome to the "arms" race. 
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June 23rd, 03:30 PM
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I Vore You
Join Date: May 2003
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Have you shot an electro? Have you hit 20 ball a second?
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June 23rd, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Barber
Have you shot an electro? Have you hit 20 ball a second?
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after about 17 you got a solid wall of paint so much above that is pretty useless. But it feels weird if you're pulling the trigger 3 times as fast as the gun will shoot, I want controll over my gun, its gotta shoot when I pull the trigger no matter how many times per second.
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June 23rd, 03:39 PM
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Banged
Join Date: Feb 2002
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to cap all guns at 5 bps would a- be impossable, cheater boards will allways be out there, it doesnt matter if they come from teh factory capped at 5 bps, you can just thrwo an aftermarket board in there if you want, and B- the style of play today is all about shutting down lanes and limiting the movement of the other team by laying down streams of paint. to put a cap of 5 pbs, tourney play would have to be reinvented. not to mention that people will be buyin 1/4 the amount of paint they previously were, so the paint companies are going to substantually raise teh prices to compensate for their loss of sales
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June 23rd, 03:49 PM
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Actually, after about 15 bps, the space between the balls in the rope of paint is very small....
I like fast guns, they make speedball, well, speedball! If we had 5 bps guns, we'd all be playing slowball!
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June 23rd, 03:50 PM
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if you have problem with bps go pump like i did. i use 1 bag of paint in 6 hours. honestly i like watching little kids getting raped by timmies at 20+ bps it makes me laugh. the faster the better. then people will buy more paint. hell i don't even buy paint i beg for it. when people have 2 or more cases they don't care about 50 or 200 balls.
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June 23rd, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by chromekilla
to cap all guns at 5 bps would a- be impossable, cheater boards will allways be out there, it doesnt matter if they come from teh factory capped at 5 bps, you can just thrwo an aftermarket board in there if you want,
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I agree-
The fact that some guns come with cheater boards FROM THE FACTORY make limiting BPS nearlly impossible.
But there is a way:
BRING BACK THE BAN ON FORCE FEED HOPPERS.
I love them, because they prevent jams and chops, but when the NPPL removed the ban, under pressure from AGD, in 2001, I think that was the SINGLE WORST THING TO HAPPEN IN TOURNAMENT PAINTBALL.
That was the thing that started the "speed race".
Its probobly impossible to bring back the ban because most tournaments are now run by the paint companies AND THEY WANT you to shoot lots of paint.
Insurance companies hate the system, and often talk about banning electros. Its hard to see where this is going to end.
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June 23rd, 04:00 PM
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It would change the whole game and would never happen.
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June 23rd, 04:10 PM
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It would be less fun if there was less paint, because then you would have to have longer fields. Everyone would be making the 50 off the break, sweetspotting would be pointless.
No.
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June 23rd, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cheap
Actually, after about 15 bps, the space between the balls in the rope of paint is very small....
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Space between balls:
5 bps: 56 feet apart
10bps: 28 feet apart
15bps: 18 feet apart
20bps: 14 feet apart
25bps: 11 feet apart.
At 25bps, 11 feet is still a pretty large space between the paintballs!!
You would need to be going above 200bps to have to in the barrel at the same time.
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June 23rd, 04:25 PM
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I Vore You
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At 5 bps you could just dodge the paint and walk from bunker to bunker. I could just walk to the 50 off the break.
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June 23rd, 04:26 PM
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its good for me. Most people are gonna shoot through a case or 2 in one day of paintball. If it wasnt for this massive paint shooting paint would cost 80 a case, and thats not affordable. So this is actually very good because it means more people will join the sport of paintball since its cheaper. A lot of people in my class said that they would play paintball except its so expensive, so if we lower the price many more people would join the sport. And since the paint prices would lower and attract a demographic with a lower price range the gun, mask, tank, etc. companies would lower their prices to get people attracted to their guns and get brand loyalty. So actually this is very good for paintball expanding as a sport.
As long as the non cheater, high debounce boards were used, very few people would get over 20 bps because its so hard to do.
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June 23rd, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by HP_lovecraft
Space between balls:
5 bps: 56 feet apart
10bps: 28 feet apart
15bps: 18 feet apart
20bps: 14 feet apart
25bps: 11 feet apart.
At 25bps, 11 feet is still a pretty large space between the paintballs!!
You would need to be going above 200bps to have to in the barrel at the same time.
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ya but at 20 bps you'd have 1/20th of a second to move about 1 or 2 feet. Also what fps are you using 300fps? I'm wondering how many balls a second you would have to shoot for the balls to have no space in between them. do you know? I'm guessing 2000 and 3000 bps to have the balls have no space between them, because wouldnt that be the physical limit.
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June 23rd, 04:44 PM
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well there are 3600 inches in 300 feet
given that .689(standard) paintballs are used, it would have to shoot 5224.96bps when shooting at 300fps for every shot and with exactly round .689 paint...
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