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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Boston Police Kill Woman with Paintball

yep you heard it right, when the Boston police showed up after the red sox game in their riot gear expecting a riot, which they didn't find, they decided to shoot random partygoers with pepper spray (powder) filled paintballs just for fun. turns out those stupid pigs are so damn ignorant they can't even figure out how to operate a simple paintball gun. they turned the velocity up to like 500fps and shot a girl (college student) in the eye who was in no way involved in any riot and in fact nowhere near anyone causing any trouble. the force of the impact exploded her eye and apparently caused so much other trauma that she died later that night. IMO the cops that were involved should be executed. I hate pigs

"(CNN) -- The Boston Police Department "accepts full responsibility" for the death of a 21-year-old college student killed by a police projectile fired to disperse crowds celebrating the Boston Red Sox victory over the New York Yankees."

here's a link to one of the articles:----> Stupid Cops

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"Snelgrove was a junior majoring in journalism at Emerson College, a small, four-year communications and performing arts college in Boston, said school spokesman David Rosen. She had transferred to the school last spring and was to turn 22 next week"
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Arent the cops balls harder than regular balls? This is going to cause very very bad action against the recreational form of paintball. Also, i doubt this is the onyl time someone has been killed by a "Non-lethal" weapon, i.e. that druggy that died from the tazer a few months ago.

EDIT: Read the article, it doesnt mention paintball, but it does mention the pepper filled paintballs shot from paintball markers. I think this shows that even the police should obey the 300 FPS rule.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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holy sh*t.. damm i feel all sad now ='[
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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thats really bad. Im sure that the cops werent shooting paintball markers and it was probably pellet guns with pepper spray inside. However, the cops need to work on their marksmanship. This will obviously be a bad thing the for the Boston PD and i have a feeling that there will be a loooong news segment on the news tonight...

The article said that SOME people were rioting but the woman in question was no where near the area.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Man this just pisses me off.. I can't believe the IGNORANCE that was displayed here. 1) For shooting into a crowd that was actually invoking their right for peacefull assembly, and 2) for misusing a less then leathal weapon system in a wanton and negligent way.

I am very pro police, but idiots are idiots if they were blue or bib overalls, this time someone died because of this ignorance. There are not words to describe my disgust.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah cops and bouty hunter types always wanna raise the velocity.

Pepper balls dont wrk. The pain is what stops people not the pepper powder. So they learn this and feel stupid so they turn up the velocity. I think Pepper balls are one of the dumbest inventions ever. They should just stick to tear gas. I think the main reason they get pepperballs is because they get to shoot stuff and they think they're cool.

There was on guy in the customize thread wanting to up his velocity. Now I wish I hadent helped him. I mean if he doesnt know how to even turn up the velocity can we really trust him with a pepperball gun?
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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thats really bad. Im sure that the cops werent shooting paintball markers ...
The pepper ball marker is a tippman pro carbine with paintballs full of OC powder. Generally the police are trained to hit center of mass, but it sounds like this moron went for a random shot that ended up with a head shot.

Sad and infuriating.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Its on CNN, lots of people will see this. Those that really want to get rid of paintball will have a new vigor and will use this incident against us. However we can still say that our sport should be allowed because we use safety equipment
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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police shoot at around 600fps. i saw it on tactical to practical. the pepper does work. it clouds up into your eyes and nose like pepper spray effect.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:53 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Your sure 600 FPS? that sounds a little more than non-lethal to me. I saw the same show but it was a while ago and i cant remember the part with the cop markers.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 10:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I have the show on my computer. Pepper balls dont work unless you hit someone in the face. as soon as people see the cloud they'll hold their breath. and just take a few step backwards. If they worked they could just fire a few warning shots onto the floor. They should stick to tasers, tear gas, and maybe normal paintballs. They should all also be required to be trained and be able to asses the crowds.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 11:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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They should all also be required to be trained and be able to asses the crowds.
I agree. And also have background checks and spychological profiles done. IMO, if in your job you are required to shoot things at people that arent in proper safety equipment or dont want to be shot (party crowds) then it needs to be made ABSOLUTELY sure that you wont go nuts with the stuff they give you. i wouldnt be suprised if they already do that.

Also i think the cops should be fired.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 11:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am very pro police, but idiots are idiots if they were blue or bib overalls, this time someone died because of this ignorance. There are not words to describe my disgust.
yeah, I'm not against the idea of police (my brother is gonna be a cop) but its the kind of people who generally decide to become police (and abuse their power) that pisses me off. and pepper balls are a dumb idea, and btw the shells are the same as regular paintballs if I remember correctly, I think the company website is pepperball.com or something like that.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 11:07 AM   #14 (permalink)
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the web site says 350 to 380, but tactical to practical said double the normal speed. if it hurts more you'll give up. the ball can hit your chest and cloud into your eyes. the military shoot bullets with paint caps that go really fast and they live through it.

you can also buy normal piantball from them. Available in quantities of 90, 375, 750, 1,500 and 3,000.
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Thats the worst news i have heard all week, my dad is a cop so I will ave to ask him if they have any of this equipment. I doubt it as the department is very small.

But your right about assessing the crowds, they are trained from the academy to do such things, Judge the amount of danger to public and your self, act accordingly and resolve situation.

Sounds to me the cop had no idea what the impact of a mistake could be with that weapon he used, If the family has an excellent lawyer they can get the Poilice officer removed from duty permantly.
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yeah well most people haven't been trained by the military, silent kill...Im sure that if the velocity is 600 fps then wouldn't they have it tested to see if the average person can live through it?????? Usually cops target the center of mass, true, but counter terrorist operatives and special forces aim for the head so that the target dies instantly and the target's finger cannot remain on the trigger and spray an extened burst into the air. However, this 21 year old girl was neither a terrorist or was armed....

As for the pro carbine, i wasn't aware that it could go up to 600 fps.
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they should use that cool speaker they had on tactical to practical. but make it into gun size. Sonic waves would be great.

Cept if the person is death...then they're unstoppable... OH NOOOS
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its on CNN right now, man this just sucks. I dont think it will hurt us to much though, they pretty much said that it was the polices fault and that they shouldn't have fired at her like that.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 11:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think this will make more people think that paintball is unsafe and dangerous. I think that its now more likely that if i said i paintball someone will say something along the lines of "Isnt that dangerous? i wouldnt do it if i were you" or if it were a teacher they might get the counceler to talk to me about "dangerous hobbies" Lets face it, in some areas paintball isnt mainstream enough to just be able to brush something like this off if the right people take the right action.
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yup. those pepper balls are much harder to break than paintballs since they contain a solid, plus they are thicker shelled.

also, their guns are modified to shoot at those insainely high fps. idiots. mabye they'll learn now. i'd like to slap the stupid fuzz that was at the trigger. they should do those things the way the cops do pepper spray, make them get shot so they konw how it feels. that way they'll understand how unsafe it is to not be careful about where they are aiming.
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