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Old January 26th, 05:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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LOL...Im sort of a n00b to the sport but not really...I recently bought a spyder victor II from a friend for a really cheap price...After a couple matches with the gun my trigger frame cracked...I bought a new one and when i put it in, the gun goes crazy...It start firing like fully auto and the only way too stop it is to stop the bolt...I wasted a lot of CO2 doing this...its so delicate that even if I just tap the marker the thing goes off...Can anyone tell me what the problem is or am I just doing something wrong...Any help would be great...Thanks
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Old January 26th, 05:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What frame did you get? If you got an electronic frame that might be part of the problem.

When this happens, disconnect your gas source CAREFULLY and the gun won't be able to keep wasting Co2 through shooting.

It sounds like the output of your tank is screwed up, discharging more gas per cycle than it should. That and your trigger might be so sensitive that once is starts shooting the vibration from the shots makes it go off constantly.
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Old January 26th, 05:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No it wasnt an electric frame...I just want to know why its so sensitive and if theres a way to adjust it...
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Old January 26th, 06:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think the sear may not be catching the striker. Is it a electronic frame or what? I know victor II are semi.
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Old January 26th, 06:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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He just said it was not eletronic
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Old January 26th, 06:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think the sear may not be catching the striker.
That's your best bet right there. Otherwise the striker will just keep going back and forth and recharging from the gas system.

If anything, check how well the trigger frame and the gun body fit. If it's not screwed in all the way (relatively tightly) or the trigger frame design is significantly different from your old one then it will have a gap between the sear and the striker, causing it to miss catching it and thereby have your gun shoot like crazy until you manually hold the bolt.
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Old January 26th, 06:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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So is there a way to fix it if the sear isnt catching the striker?
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Old January 26th, 06:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You could tighen the screws that attach the trigger frame to the mainbody, for starters. If that doesn't make a difference, keep reading.


First, make sure you disconnect your gas source. You don't want to get your fingers mashed while you do this.

Remove the trigger frame from your marker using the metric wrenches that should've come with your marker.

Once you've taken it off, look up into the opening where the trigger frame fits in- does the striker have any signs of wear in or around the notch where it should be catching? If it does, then there is probably a small gap that's preventing it from hooking on during firing.

If not, there is an even bigger gap. Check your sear (the seesaw-type metal piece in your trigger frame that springs up and down) and see if the spring under it is ok or not. If the spring isn't pushing the back of that sear up and into your marker, then you will have to get a new spring to make sure that sear goes up and catches the sear.

If the sear is in the up position (push it down and see if it does bounce back up) and the striker is ok, then might be that the recharge time for the valve is so fast that it doesn't give the striker a chance to catch onto the sear (highly improbable) once you pull the strigger so it goes crazy.


Either that or your the parts of the sear and striker (one or the other, or perhaps both) are so worn from use that they no longer catch onto its counterpart.

Ask your friend why he sold the Victor II to you, and if there were any problems with it...either way it's wear and tear, so he'd be the one responsible for it. I'm looking at the diagram on Kingman's website as we speak and I can't see anything else that would be the cause.



Also, which trigger frame did you get? Not all trigger frames fit as well as they should...
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Old January 27th, 03:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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aye u need to tighten the screws that conncet the frame to the body. happend to me before
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Old January 27th, 04:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If none of the above work, take out the striker, look at the notch that the sear catches, and take a file and make the notch deeper.
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Old January 28th, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks guys...Will try it
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