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You could use a 9 oz. on a phantom. I wouldn't recommend it on a VSC because if you hit something it might warp the trigger frame, but it would be fine on a backbottle. Phantoms are reliable, but I haven't ever dropped or hit my gun on anything so I wouldn't know about how durable they are. I think that they are pretty durable though. I don't think they really compair to a tippy, but what does?
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