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Paintball nube · November 9th, 2012, 09:32 PM

Hey there. Ive been a speedballer for pretty much the whole time ive been paintballing and i want a change. My friends pretty much do just pump play and i wanted to give it a try. They all use ccm t2's or ccm s6.5s. Im looking to trade my mint bob long vice for a ccm t2, plus 250 dollars ontop. Or trade my vice for an empire sniper, with 20 dollars and a ninja steely tank. Which do all you seasoned pump players think is the better deal?

I know ccm's are supposed to be amazing pump markers but are they THAT much better to pay 250 dollars ontop of my vice. Or would the empire sniper be just fine? Keeping in mind im a brand new pump player so i don't need some top of the line pump. thanks!

**toXic** · November 9th, 2012, 10:34 PM

It depends how serious you want to get. They operate the same, and have the same trigger set up. They will perform nearly the same, with possibly a slight slight edge to the T2. The t2 will be a better quality marker and better looking. That's the reason for the extra money.

If it was me, I would just get the Empire Sniper. Unless you want to pay the extra money for the superior looks.

**huckduck** · November 10th, 2012, 01:34 AM

i'd say keep the vice and get something cool as well. hard to come by good vices these days

Paintball nube · November 10th, 2012, 06:55 AM

ya my vice is an awesome marker, i just have a g6r as well so i thought it was pointless to have 2 generations of intimidators. Even though the vice looks way better then the g6r lol. But hmm, i thought they might be pretty close. Obviously you see a lot more empire snipers at the field then any ccm marker which is another reason id want it haha

***Pro_paintball*** · November 10th, 2012, 07:34 AM

I personally like sanchez machine, check it sniper, and most autococker style pumps. I can take a simple autocoker that cost me 100-200 and put a bit of money into it and it shoots as nice as the ccm

**snowboarder599** · November 10th, 2012, 07:57 AM

The Sniper is actually a very nice pump. They come with barrel kits too, so that's also a plus. If you want to play open class or stock, you can do that with the sniper as well. If you've never really played pump before, go with something cheap like an og autococker, and convert it.Plus, if you get tired of pump, you can always put the pneumatics back on it! This will let you know if you really want to go into pump play or not without having to get rid of another marker that you like.

Paintball nube · November 10th, 2012, 01:47 PM

its funny that you guys mentioned converting an autococker, because i actually have a dragon fly autococker that i was thinking about converting to a pump. Although it has an e-grip so id have to find a different grip for it. I think what i might do is keep the vice and buy a new tracer my friend is selling. I didnt want to get a crappy pump marker for my first one because i don't want it to hinder my first experience with a pump, then just hate it. But on the other side of the coin, i don't want to spend 600-800 dollars on a new ccm either.

**snowboarder599** · November 10th, 2012, 03:16 PM

It's better to go inexpensive, and figure out if you like pump or not. It's not so much about the marker being poor quality, it's a different style of play. You'll have to play much slower, and make your shots count. Remember, it's 95% player, 4% luck, and 1% marker...

Paintball nube · November 11th, 2012, 07:39 PM

i ended up buying a tracer off my friend for real cheap, but i plan on getting a pump thats a little bit better of quality. My friends laughed at me trying out pump, because im the type to shoot around 5 pods in a match lol. So its quite the change of play

***Pro_paintball*** · November 11th, 2012, 07:59 PM

Yea i never had a problem playing pump i started in 97 so there wasnt guns that i could shoot that much so i learned to snap shoot and plan my shots. So even now that i have guns that shoot 20+ bps i still dont shoot more than a hopper and a pod in a rec ball game

**snowboarder599** · November 11th, 2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintball nube

im the type to shoot around 5 pods in a match lol. So its quite the change of play

I feel ya, I'm the same way. Have fun with the pump!

**Crawdaddy** · November 12th, 2012, 07:27 AM

Nothing wrong with a Tracer at all and the speed some of those people shooting CCMs shoot I don't even know why they bother with a pump at all.

Paintball nube · November 12th, 2012, 04:11 PM

lol ya i tried out my buddies T2, i need some practice with the auto trigger but my friend can shoot that thing crazy fast. The tracer seems like a good little starter pump. Just wanted to get the taste for it. Might try and find a used ccm j2 or j2l. I like the look of them.

***Pro_paintball*** · November 12th, 2012, 06:16 PM

If im buying a ccm i would buy the 6.5 its one of the newer ones and i like a half block
Speaking of half block what are the advantages of a half block autococker other than weight i might get a half block prostock just because

**huckduck** · November 13th, 2012, 02:34 AM

look and weight. other than that, nothing