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**Trbo323** · December 5th, 2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Riddler236

and the question i "avoided" answering: 'how is WGP able to produce a budget 'cocker?' That's the easiest one of all: obviously they can't.

on a side note, with regard to PE, are their markers even milled, or are they just extruded? i thought it was the latter.

so it must be everyone's collective imagination that they were in buisness for 21 years "not" producing anything on a budget?

you can't extrude a marker body, at least not anything in PE's lineup, for an extrusion process to work you must have a fixed cross section along the whole length. you may be able to create blanks that would then go through the CNC process so they would not have to machine off quite as much aluminum but that would just require more machining and more time and then requires you to still CNC it in the end.

it would make more sense to cast rough blanks and then machine those down as you would not have to have a fixed cross section throughout the length. casting has its own issues though...

***martix_agent*** · December 5th, 2012, 07:51 PM

I'm nearly positive they extrude blanks, and mill them down from there.

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nothing's wrong with a cocker pump. they're hot

ShortBus · December 5th, 2012, 09:01 PM

Yep, they are extruded bricks, tubes, blanks whatever you want to call them, then machined either on a mass scale or done by "hand". I've had a few blanks from a few different gun manufacturers, pretty cool how they shape them into what we shoot!

Now, the composite plastic thing on the other hand lol

**huckduck** · December 5th, 2012, 09:01 PM

ala jack wood via pbn:

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It starts a rectangular block of aluminium. If you mean is it extruded like a tube with a hole already down the middle and a rounded outside form, then yes, I'm tellinyouyourewrong.

Geos are, and have always been, 100% machined from 6061-T6 billet. Never forged. And I swear that on my sons and my wife's life.

**Riddler236** · December 5th, 2012, 09:27 PM

Hey, good to know! The extrusion/drop-forged rumors have hounded them for years.

ShortBus · December 5th, 2012, 10:28 PM

The J12 is officially sold out lol

***martix_agent*** · December 5th, 2012, 10:30 PM

Is there something wrong with extrusion? It seems like a cheaper,faster, and just as effective way of doing things.

**Trbo323** · December 7th, 2012, 02:36 PM

nothing particularly wrong with it other than on a complicated enough body you still have to CNC it in the end. off the top of my head the old impulse bodies come to mind as one that could be very close to completely exuded only needing things like eye and detent holes to be drilled after extrusion. personally i dont think it makes sense unless you have a very simple body shape. why buy 2 very expensive machines when a CNC will do the job on its own?

Thats the way Dye does it, they just have like 20 or so CNC machines, course paintball is not the only thing they have a hand in though.

anyone want to buy me the titanium UL frame that they have on their site as an example?

**huckduck** · January 14th, 2013, 11:04 PM

i'm biting on a T2. 575 for the t2 and a freak bored barrel with a whiptip and a stiffi.

ShortBus · January 15th, 2013, 09:22 AM

Pretty good price! What color combo?

**huckduck** · January 15th, 2013, 06:22 PM

it was bruce's old gat. and if anything i'll get mitch to clean it up ^.^ but the previous owner hangs out with the ton's too

bruce said it was a first wave T2

Pro_paintball · January 15th, 2013, 07:51 PM

Looks sweet and the price isnt bad. I aint got the money but that would be a sweet gun to use.

***martix_agent*** · January 15th, 2013, 07:53 PM

wow that's very small. Looks like it's built with quality as well.

**huckduck** · January 16th, 2013, 12:47 AM

if anyone wants one, i've got a line on a gloss red one for 5 bills