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tpunk628 · February 24th, 2012, 01:15 AM

I want to purchase a full-auto Piranha paintball marker. What is the NEWest model of FULL-auto Piranha paintball guns?? Google is of know help with this one.

**huckduck** · February 24th, 2012, 02:05 AM

i don't think piranha is around anymore....

***Wolferam*** · February 24th, 2012, 09:37 AM

I think Huck is right. Pirahna is not in business anymore. They did however make Spyder clones with the STBB configuration. If you want a Pirahna, look for a good Spyder. 2012 Fenix, 2009 Electra, VS or RS series are solid too.

**TheAznInvazn** · February 24th, 2012, 10:14 AM

If I'm not mistaken, they are owned by Empire paintball, and I think they still sell a basic model for beginners

With that said, it's mechanical, and full auto is overrated.
Why would you want to waste even more paint?

**Crawdaddy** · February 24th, 2012, 12:14 PM

Last season a lot of brands got shuffled up and some got dropped or renamed. I think Empire is selling the old Piranha as the Empire ER3.

tpunk628 · February 24th, 2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy

Last season a lot of brands got shuffled up and some got dropped or renamed. I think Empire is selling the old Piranha as the Empire ER3.

This man, is a GENIUS. Thank you. Wish it was full-auto tho :/

***martix_agent*** · February 24th, 2012, 01:01 PM

full auto is never needed, you can shoot just as fast in semi auto.

***Wolferam*** · February 24th, 2012, 01:10 PM

How many fields can you get away with full auto though?

***martix_agent*** · February 24th, 2012, 01:11 PM

none that I know of; insurance companies frown on it.

**huckduck** · February 24th, 2012, 01:34 PM

my indoor allows it, but nobody does it

tlmiller · February 24th, 2012, 01:38 PM

None of the fields I've looked up so far here in Phoenix allow it.

**Trbo323** · February 24th, 2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawdaddy

Last season a lot of brands got shuffled up and some got dropped or renamed. I think Empire is selling the old Piranha as the Empire ER3.

i believe you are correct, the design did change a bit though, i know the frames were re-worked a bit as parts from the new ones wont work with the old ones

i think though that piranha is still making some rental markers under the fish title, not positive about that though

***Wolferam*** · February 24th, 2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by huckduck

my indoor allows it, but nobody does it

I've only heard rumor of it being allowed in pro level tournies. But have nothing further to go on.

***martix_agent*** · February 24th, 2012, 02:16 PM

no they use ramping; it's kinda like full auto but not really

**TheAznInvazn** · February 24th, 2012, 02:24 PM

Ramping can be explained very simply as more than one shot per trigger pull

***martix_agent*** · February 24th, 2012, 02:25 PM

but if you hold the trigger in, it will not continue to fire.

**TheAznInvazn** · February 24th, 2012, 02:30 PM

Indeed

It can get a bit technical to explain fully, and I don't really feel like explaining it to the best of my knowledge, since I myself could also be misunderstanding ramping.
I never use it, I can shoot fast enough in semi

***Wolferam*** · February 24th, 2012, 02:57 PM

Ok, in short terms. How many rounds will fire in Millenium ramp as opposed to PSP?

**TheAznInvazn** · February 24th, 2012, 03:01 PM

PSP is 12.5 bps right now, and I think Millennium is still at 15 bps

As for how many shots it will shoot per trigger pull, I know there are many different kinds of PSP ramping, but the most common is PSP 3-shot
I have no idea how Millennium works

**Crawdaddy** · February 24th, 2012, 03:20 PM

Millennium works by kicking the firing rate up to your board's max rate of fire as long as a minimum rate of fire is maintained I think it is something like 6.5bps or 8bps or something it gets tweaked often. So if it kicks in at 8bps and your max rate of fire is 15bps when you pull the trigger at 8bps it bumps it up to 15bps and keeps firing at 15ps as long as you keep pulling the trigger at 8bps.