rbrodowski

Hey guys, I have a bt4 combat slice and i wanted to get a new barrel and i was wondering to get either a J&J Ceramic barrel or an apex barrel. Thanks for your help ^^

Pro_paintball

Cant go wrong with either
I personally shoot cp, freak, dye and sceptor
Cp and dye with pump
Freak and sceptor are kits

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waL

Looking to have some fun in the woods(not competitive) then Apex is fine.
A solid shooting, self cleaning barrel that shoots straight, J&J.

tlmiller

J&J every day. Best barrels IMO I've ever used in my life, and been playing for 17 years and owned just about every barrel in existence.

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Trbo323

J&J for sure

apex is a neat carnival sideshow, J&J is a great barrel

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Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, that makes a firearm better makes a paintball marker worse. They are 2 very different worlds with nothing except a trigger in common

Max07

Mil-simers and some rec ballers like to use it to add efects on your paintballs. Mil-simers use it to gain more distance in order to have a straighter line to use a red dot sight more "reliably". I've seen some videos of people using it and working for them but what actually happens is that you get more distance sacrificing accuarcy and the line is not really straight but it curves in the air at weird angles.
J&J Will give you a self cleaning mecanism and some people claim that they are more accurate.

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I was wrong again, Paradigms do have mid-end internals, but they are not even near good enough to justify its enormous price.

That Dye DAM, is to damn sexy, and to damn expensive

Crawdaddy

Why not both? J&J makes adapters that let you attach an Apex to your J&J barrel.

Schnelly611

Seconded.

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Pro_paintball

Hey i have not really played to much with a j & j but would somebody put one on a phantom as a upgrade to stock barrel

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Crawdaddy

The Phantom stock barrel is the best stock barrel ever made unless you are replacing it with a kit it would be a downgrade.

Pro_paintball

Really wow i liked mine alot but wasnt sure that it was that good

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g3t PaiNt3d 98

J&J all the way!

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kyhillbilly

I have a J&J I use on my backup sometimes and they are nice. But I will say in some situations an Apex or flatline barrel may be better. For example playing woodsball getting a flatter trajectory is a huge advantage sometimes. Also if you play on homemade bunkers getting a ball thru cracks and openings in bunkers can be key. So its going to depend a little on where you play. But for versatility I would take the J&J unless I knew I would be playing a ton of woodsball and event then get the J&J but also get the tip and you can add it if you need to.

Max07

I know I said J&J but if you want you can have both at the same time with an adaptor. I checked on pbRIOT and a guy explained how to properly use the APEX to have the straightest line possible and actualy gain some distance. He even showed a video of himself using it and getting the results. Here's the link:

Apex2 Question

Just read it all until you find your answer.

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I was wrong again, Paradigms do have mid-end internals, but they are not even near good enough to justify its enormous price.

That Dye DAM, is to damn sexy, and to damn expensive

Trbo323

problem is once you throw a apex on the end of a J&J it tends to loose the self cleaning ability, so while it is true that you can put a apex on a J&J, in my mind it kind of defeats the purpose of having the J&J as one of the major reasons to have it gets left behind.

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kyhillbilly

Agreed. Big thing is when you take the Apex off you still have a good barrel.

Pro_paintball

Honestly do whatever you feel is necessary if you get both then you will have a great system but if your only to get on get the j&j because it shoots better for what you are most likely to be doing

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