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January 5th, 12:12 AM
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Ion is shooting weird...
Alright, I'm not sure what's going on with my ion. I have a QEV and a new reg...I have my dwell at 16 and my PSI set at around 150, and it shooting at around 270 fps. But the problem is that when I shoot paintballs I have to angle it extremely high to shoot paint somewhat far but when I shoot my buddy's ego which is shooting at around 270 fps and I shoot it the same distance I barely have to angle it. Is this something I should be worried about, or is this normal?
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January 5th, 06:11 PM
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do you have the same kind of barrels on the guns? if you say he has a freak or a dye and you are running stock im going to slap you.
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January 5th, 06:22 PM
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do you have the same kind of barrels on the guns? if you say he has a freak or a dye and you are running stock im going to slap you.
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the barrel has nothing to do with distance...
is it shootdown or just have to angle it?
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January 5th, 09:18 PM
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the barrel has nothing to do with distance...
is it shootdown or just have to angle it?
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I'm not very sure, I've had some people telling me that my gun was downshooting, but I've had people tell me it was shooting fine..so I dunno...
All I know is that I have to angle it extremely high to get it pretty far. And other guns don't have to angle as high..
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January 5th, 10:24 PM
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I would recomend taking the entire gun apart and cleaning it. Check to see if any thing is out of place (like an o-ring is loose). Also relubing it might help.
As for the downshooting,
Some regs don't alow enough air to get threw. Because it is at 150PSI but the reg is not trying to keep refill the chamber at that point. So if you shoot fast enough the reg does not alow enough air threw to fill the chamber backup to 150PSI at a rate faster then you are shooting.
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January 5th, 10:38 PM
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also, the paint might fit your ions barrel differently than what it does in the other guy's gun.....causing your shots to be off.
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January 5th, 10:40 PM
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Lube the gun and reg.
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January 5th, 10:44 PM
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almost forgot.......shootdown = when each successive shot gets less and less velocity, thereby traveling less and less distance.
you are having more of a trajectory issue, which is usually more related to the paint to barrel match.
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January 6th, 08:42 AM
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You might also check how worn your detents are. Are they stock? Mine were gone after a few cases of paint. Bought the New Designs spring detents and my shots are back to being straight and with less lob I guess you might say. This could easily be your problem.
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January 7th, 04:34 PM
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first of all barrels can do with distance depending on if the boring is made for backspin or not but since in ur case u probably dont have that kind of barrel i would take it all apart lube it, put it back together and try it then
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January 15th, 12:48 PM
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that happen to me and you have cleen it. it is not working because the butten is stuck or the butten needs clean
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January 15th, 01:23 PM
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150 psi seems a bit low for ions. try raising the input pressure and see if it helps.
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January 18th, 12:25 PM
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the barrel will makea diffrence in velocity but 150psi is kinda low for an ion turn itup to bout 180-210 but dont goover 210 cause youll blow your hoses in your gun. try adjusting your dwell and cleaning the qev. then adjust the pressure in your reg.
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January 18th, 01:11 PM
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the barrel will makea diffrence in velocity but 150psi is kinda low for an ion turn itup to bout 180-210 but dont goover 210 cause youll blow your hoses in your gun. try adjusting your dwell and cleaning the qev. then adjust the pressure in your reg.
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1. The barrel has nothing to do with velocity unless it's over 16 inches, even if it does has something to do with it, it's nothing worth mentioning.
2. I'm not turning my ion above 200 or close to 200.
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January 18th, 01:13 PM
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Are you sure both your gun and the ego are both shooting 270 fps? because if that is the case, it may be a matter of views. By this I mean for instance, an autococker, to the shooter, appears to have a different trajectory aiming down the barrel than, say, an Angel. However, the laws of physics cannot allow one of the guns to have better range than the other if they are both coming out at 270 (except for flatlines, and other types of course), if they are bothe shooting 270 fps they will both go the same range, barring anything such as wind. It may look like it is lobbing a little more but if it is dropping off earlier than the ego, then they are not shooting equal feet per second.
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January 18th, 06:19 PM
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^^
The laws of physics can easily allow for different trajectorys, considering the difference in internals, and most importantly, the paint to barrel match.
Unless they were using the EXACT same barrel (impossible-different threads) and identical paintballs, the laws of physics allow for discrepencies.
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January 18th, 06:24 PM
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well, yes, i mentioned that there would be slight differences but it shouldn't be the huge difference that he was describing, it could however be, as i said, appearances. different guns' trajectories look different when you're aiming down the barrel but if you watch from the side, they're almost identical. And I'm not a physics professor so don't think i'm trying to start an argument here lol.
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January 18th, 07:22 PM
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Neither am I, didnt mean to flame or anything
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January 19th, 08:01 PM
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He said he has a QEV, why the heck would you turn the pressure up that high?
I've seen stock ions run at 170 perfectly.
My friends got a QEV in his and he runs at 140 psi with dwell at 13 i think.
Anyway, try buying some different paint. Check your paint to bore match. In this case, see if you can find some that rolls out of the barrel without getting stuck. Your going to lose effeciency and accuracy, but if it is still shooting funny if your sure the paint is smaller than the bore, its your gun.
Make sure the balls aren't deformed or anything when you buy new ones. No breaks in the bags, and see if the balls roll out of the barrel.
Change your detents.
And lastly, clean your regulator and solonoid out.
oh one more thing, you may have a faulty gauge, make sure that your actually running at 150 psi and the gauge isn't broken or stuck.
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