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andyminION · April 12th, 05:35 PM

what is with this gun?
it downgrades the bps to 15 from the ion.
what is the point of this gun?
someone enlighten me or agree with me

**mLuH** · April 12th, 05:52 PM

i believe it comes with the same stock board as the ion, although I don't really know. I know that it's gotta get more than 15bps. Maybe you read the bps concerning the ramping, and that was only 15bps.

I shot one of these for a day at a tourney last month (on ramping all day), not a single chop or barrel break all day, and I shot about a case thru it, using an egg. No complaints from me.

**evolkers2003** · April 12th, 07:58 PM

Plus the epiphany has a new body, reg cover, barrel, different looking feedneck (same function), max flo micro, and a different operating thing that deals with air flow or something. I still would rather get a ION and upgrade it though.

andyminION · April 13th, 07:53 PM

i do admit that it does look really cool.
im sorry about when i said it can go fifteen. it says that the chamber extends when the player is shooting the gun at fifteen or more bps.
also what would you say to purchasing one of these?
my little bro wants to get into paintball and my parents are giving me 150 for my ion if i get a new gun and give it to him.

andyminION · April 15th, 01:15 PM

i need someone to do reserch or something on if it has the same board as the ion.
I looked on the sp website and it doesnt say anything.
SOMEONE HELP I AM LOOKING TO BUY THIS GUN

**kenny_1491** · April 15th, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by evolkers2003

Plus the epiphany has a new body, reg cover, barrel, different looking feedneck (same function), max flo micro, and a different operating thing that deals with air flow or something. I still would rather get a ION and upgrade it though.

it has more of a dump chamber style airflow.

**evolkers2003** · April 15th, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by andyminION

i need someone to do reserch or something on if it has the same board as the ion.
I looked on the sp website and it doesnt say anything.
SOMEONE HELP I AM LOOKING TO BUY THIS GUN

I looked this up before for someone but i cant remember exactly what it said. I believe it has the same board.\ though.

**Mortisdeum** · April 15th, 11:32 PM

The only differance between the Epiphany's and Ion's Stock boards are the solenoids. The Epiphany's is rated for a higher operating pressure. I but have seen a few new Ions with the Epiphany's solenoid though.

andyminION · April 16th, 05:40 PM

so would this be worth the 400 dollars you paid for?
also would anyone say it is better than the ion?
i think it probably is but right now the only reason i am finding is the looks. The red and black colors look awesome.
Anyone have a preference for color?
i plan on getting one of these.

**kenny_1491** · April 16th, 06:06 PM

no they wouldn't be worth it, buy PMR or a mini instead.

**evolkers2003** · April 16th, 06:26 PM

Yeah, just get a PMR as the first batch of minis had bad solenoids and im not sure if they have fixed that yet.

andyminION · April 18th, 07:57 PM

how much is PMR?
sry havent time to look for it.
and isnt that old?
i thought i heard they were like 1 or 2 years old.
i would probably want a newish marker

andyminION · April 18th, 08:03 PM

nvr mind i saw it on a quick website.
that looks horrible tho.
it opreates at 150 psi; epiphany works at 250.
it also has a rubber trigger.
i would never be able to work with this so i would have to spend extra after i bought the gun to get new trigger.
the bottom line is i dont think that this is a marker for me.
i like smart parts. I hav an ion now but i am looking to get something that nowon else has so i looked at the epiphany and thought, hey this looks like a pretty good gun. I think it looks sweet and it has the same compatible board as the ion. It also has one of those side to side triggers that are very loose that i can fire real fast.
i just like the look and performance of this gun.

andyminION · April 18th, 08:05 PM

btw kenny is that a proto matrix 07 on your sig?
if it is i think that that gun is a very good one too.
bit pricy though lol

**mLuH** · April 18th, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by andyminION

it opreates at 150 psi; epiphany works at 250.

I'm confused, are you trying to say that the lower Operating pressure is bad? Cuz it's good.

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Originally Posted by andyminION

btw kenny is that a proto matrix 07 on your sig?
if it is i think that that gun is a very good one too.
bit pricy though lol

I believe it's a Dm6 or DM7.

**punk_pntballar** · April 18th, 10:31 PM

Yeah it's a dm6. Too bad he doesn't own one.

Get the epiphany then. It will probably suit you just fine.

**evolkers2003** · April 18th, 10:45 PM

You can knab a used PM6 for $400ish if your looking for a used one.

P.s. I like the PMRs trigger. A lot of people were fussy about it. New metal triggers (if you hate the stock one that much) are about $25.

Also teh operating pressure isnt that big of a leap. I beleive the Eclipse upped the operating pressure on their EGOs this year. It gets more shots per tank. Higher pressure = less air needed to move ball. Low pressure = more air of a lower pressure to move ball.

andyminION · April 19th, 05:19 AM

thats funny because i did look at PM6's a while ago.
i really dont like that trigger on the PMR.
i kno u said people were fussy about it BUT ITS FRICKING RUBBER
it just makes the whole gun look bad.
anyway im glad someone said something about the operating pressure that really helped i didnt kno about that.
also is a PM6 an electronic marker?
i would like an electronic one becuase my ion worked so well so i thought i would get the epiphany.
Let me make this clearer for u guys.
i have about 500$ invested in this now.
in a week i will have 550$(i work at pb store one day a week)
what do you reccomend?

TheBeastLyJaTT · April 19th, 01:28 PM

yes the PM6 is an electronic marker and u can get a brand new one from actionvillage for $550...so u should defianetly get the PM6

The performance of an PM6 is alot better than that of an Epiphany

When i say alot i mean ALOT

xrogo · April 20th, 08:17 PM

if you like your ion, sell it to your brother and buy the newer ones with redz body kits, or some of the other cooler ion packages they are making now.

Otherwise id go with a PMR