jplenhart

I have my Impulse arriving on Wednesday - I am excited. I have been reading on how to adjust the optimal dwell setting - based on the sticky thread here in the forum.

Now my Impy is stock - and I will be using pre-set 400 psi crossfire 68/4500. Now all the talk about adjusting your Impulse with an LPR has to do with buying the upgrade right? I am just confused by the whole LPR upgrade.

Thanks for any clarification.

xPiZZeRx

If your Imp doesn't have an LPR, then don't worry about it. You can't adjust something you don't have.

GJ on the Impulse. Welcome to the family.

Also, when you say 400psi. Crossfire, you mean it's a low pressure preset right? This may turn out to be a problem with your Imp. High pressure presets are recommended. But low pressure presets can be used, just set it up good, and it may work.

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Bose

welcome to the impy family and have fun with it!

one of my friends had an lp tank with their imp and it was a pain for a while....

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jplenhart

Now I am really nervous because I got the 400 psi preset tank. I called the shop where I ordered it from to try and change it - but it had already shipped. Then the guy on the phone told me that this is exactly what I wanted and that right out of the box it should work no problem. Just screw it and the max-flow will prefer this setup.

What do you all think?

MuddinPede_98C

If you don't open it, you could probably send it back for an exchange. I hate LP on my Imp. I play back/mid and shootdown kills me.

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jplenhart

So I take it that it is a real problem under a high rate of fire. I just got off the phone with Tech Support at Smart Parts and the guy there said that I should be just fine. He only recommends that I get an on/off switch for the tank.

What problems have your friends seen by running 400 preset?

MuddinPede_98C

It might not be horribly bad for you. I play back and lay down long streams of paint. When I used a LP tank they started fading off after a few. I'm not sure how LP it was. Now I use a PE tank at about 800, and it does fine.

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jplenhart

This is not good -- I am really nervous -- I called Smart Parts and the guy said it will be fine

Also -- I am a person who will shoot like 4 paintballs a second tops -- does this decision taint my playing style?

xPiZZeRx

You could experience shootdown, velocity spikes, gauge fluctuation, etc.

But who knows. LP isn't bad for all Imps. You could say the problem varies between Imps.

And ya, you will probably only notice any problems during rapid fire. If any.

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jplenhart

Well to be on the safe side I am going to order the preset 800 psi unit and will be returning the 400 (the place I ordered was cool with that). I just do not want to invite any problems -- as problems with my other gun are what drove me to buy an Impulse.

Now before I order -- do you all agree that the Crossfire 68/4500 (800 psi preset output pressure) is the way to go -- Maybe get something a bit smaller like a 45/4500?

Also - very important - should I get the SMART PARTS PRESET ON/OFF BOTTOM LINE ADAPTOR - I assume this just attaches to the tank and then you attache this line adaptor to the standard stock Impulse tank attachment (whatever you call it)?

Now I trust you guys to tell it to me correct

MuddinPede_98C

The tank, good choice. Get the Croffdire 68/4500. It's not as big as you think. As for the on-off, I don't know.

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bunkertime

DUDE! don't return thew tank. SP's accually recomends a LP Tank. IT puts less stress on all the seals inside the maxflow it self and helps w/ consistancy. My whole team shoots impys and runs LP Tanks (cross fire LP's to be exact) and they expirience no shoot down once so ever

The problem w/ HP tanks is that they exert more pressure on all the seals inside the gun. Pizzera Was wrong, LP Tanks ARE REcomended by SP's Some people who set up their imps wrong or have Microline w/ restricting air flows are the only ones that expirience Drop off. And i'll tell you for a FACT that Cross fire tanks do not Result in NE drop off once so ever.

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jplenhart

Hi,

Thank you for your post -- in the manual online it says the following:

NOTE: If your Impulse is using a compressed air system and a secondary regulator, set the output pressure of the primary air systems regulator to 650-750 psi. Follow Step 4 to set the output pressure of the Max-Flo regulator.

Does this mean I should use a pre-set tank of 800 psi -- I am so confused at this point

bunkertime

Well... I recomended the LP Tank cause the Impulse will work just Fine on a LP tank.
Also... When/if you upgrade to a higher end gun, you will already have ur LP tank.

Ne ways, Most LP Tanks output around 500 PSI and not the 450 PSI they say, my fcrossfire outputs 480PSI. and the imp will run just fine on that. So it's up to you bro

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jplenhart

Well then -- I will give the first tank a try

It is not like it will not work at all.

Also -- what do you think of the Smart Parts on/off switch?

I take it that I should get a tapewerm.

bunkertime

Well, The SP's on/off switch isn't Very good, they include them on the new 03' shockers and many, many people complain of the switch Releasing metal burs which get into the gun.

And if i was you, instead of a Tape worm. I'd look into a LPR. If your impulse came w/ the Tapped (threaded) valve cap (the cap under the barrel. You can tell it's capped if there is a Silver Allen Screw in it)
if your impy came w/ a Tapped Valve Cap, then you can buy a SP's Mini LPR and install it on. Also look into the New Designz Super LPR Combo which i think is a Great deal. If you get an LPR, Look at my technical thread for advice on how to set it up or IM me at metallicafan9182

--Kan Man

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jplenhart

What exactly does a LPR do for an Impulse - also what would it do that a tapewerm would not?

I really appreciate all your help.

bunkertime

What the LPR does is Gives the Noid it's own air supply. Basicly what it does is takes the Air comming from the maxflow, Regulates it down to around 120-130 (if you have a 180 PSI input) so that the air going to the Noid is at lower pressur, which means there is less force pushing the hammer forward which means less force on a half fed paintball. It's a Very recomended upgrade by many

What the tape worm does is Give the noid it's own Air source like the LPR but does not regulate it. This keeps the bolt from sticking forward when you dry fire it.

IM me on AIm at metallicafan9182 for ne other questions u got

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xPiZZeRx

I'm pretty sure that they recommend HP tanks. But it doesn't really matter at this point. Just try out your current tank, and judge it after that.

If you do end up buying a new tank, the 68/4500 is a very good size. I have the same one, it's awesome. Not much bigger than a 20oz. Co2 tank either.

Ya, LPR's, or the Tapeworm are recommended to any Impy owner. They are great things to have. Also, LPR's should eliminate first shot drop off. I have a SP Max-Flo LPR Kit. It's sweet. Comes with the SP Tapeworm also. Didn't resolve my FSDO as of right now, but I am in need of setting my Imp up correctly. I never get a chance to.

As of some time last year I think, on/off valves are no longer required with Imps. SP modified the ASA pin design (I think they shortened it) so that you no longer need an on/off. Keep in mind, they are still good things to have.

Pizzera....nice.

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eFFect_wannabe

hahahaha i just noticed that

nice job with the imp a blade trigger would be a good first upgrade. lpr, slick shaft, ndz valve, rat hammer, bolt. there was a great thread that Menace made on upgrades, anybody have it?