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**Presidente** · January 7th, 2005, 07:45 PM

Here is the info for anyone interested in the $60 (!) board that has a ball detection system and a ramping mode!

The new CS-Designz Vision board

This is a "vision" system that can be added to any impulse with a "cricket" board. The uses stock mounting holes (spacers are included in the kit) No modifications are required to the body or stock board!

This board includes a "ramping" mode somewhat like that in the Nerve. If you can hold a consent 10 shots per sec, the board will ramp up to 13/sec, then 15, then 19 Shots per second! This mode is selected by a switch on the board so you can still use the board in tournaments where it would be too fast to be legal. (NXL currently limits max rate of fire to 15) Our first round of tests had to be called off because we were using an eggII that would only allow us to get 14-16/sec. This board works best with a white bolt! Based on first tests, this board WILL be available in our markers and outright soon! but the best part I saved for last-- the price-- Look for this board at "around" $60!

Installation Instructions:
BDS ANTI CHOP VISION

Congratulations on your purchase of the CS Designs BDS anti-chop system. The BDS (Breech Detection System) will give your stock marker anti-chop capability without replacement of the main circuit board. READ ALL INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY BEFORE PROCEEDING

Your BDS system comes with the following parts:

One BDS main circuit board
One BDS eye circuit board (pre-attached to the BDS main circuit board)
One Battery Adaptor circuit board
One Eye Cover
Two nylon 4-40 screws and washers
One 1/3” steel 2-56 screw

Tools required for installation include:

Philips screwdriver
1/4 inch Allen wrench
1/16 inch Allen wrench
Needle nose pliers

INSTALLIATION INSTRUCTIONS

Disconnect any compressed air or CO2 source before proceeding. For easer installation, disconnect any hoses that connect the trigger frame to the main body and or vertical regulator/gas through grip
Remove the grip from one side of the trigger frame by removing the grip screws.
Once you have the grip removed from one side, disconnect the battery.
Remove trigger frame from main body by removing the two ¼ inch Allen bolts located on each side of the trigger. This is where it is easer if the vertical regulator/gas through grip is removed, as it is in the way of removing the front Allen screw that holds the trigger frame to the main body.
Disconnect the solenoid from the stock circuit board. The trigger frame and the main body should now be completely separate.
Attach the solenoid wire to the BDS main circuit board.

Attach the BDS main circuit board to the main body with the 2 Nylon Philips screws and washers as shown. Tighten the screws until just snug. Do not over tighten the screws. IMPORTANT! The washers must be placed between the main body and the circuit board. If installed incorrectly damage may occur to the BDS main circuit board and the warranty will be void.
NOTE: To make assembly easier take a small piece of tape and tape the solenoid wires to the bottom of the solenoid. You may need to loop the wires on the bottom of the solenoid to get them taped down

Remove the eye cover plate and place the eye circuit board in the cutout as shown.

Place the eye cover over the wires and main body. Then attach the eye cover with the 1/3” steel 2-56 screw. Tighten the screw until it is tight but do not over tighten the screw.
Take the extra length of wire going to the eye and from the board and fold it back and push it against the board as this will make it easier for final assembly (see above figure)
Take the BDS power cable and push it through the hole in the trigger frame that leads to the battery compartment. NOTE: This is the same hole that the leads for the stock circuit board go through.
Connect the BDS circuit board to the stock main board using the short wire with the white connector on the end. This connector is plugged into the main board where the solenoid normally plugs in. You may need to use a pair of needle nose pliers or tweezers. NOTE: The connector only plugs in one way, so if it is not going in DO NOT FORCE IT as damage may occur.
Reassemble the trigger frame and main body being careful not to pinch the wires. If the main body and trigger frame are not flush there may be a pinched wire. NOTE: When reassembling the marker the small tang on the eye cover must go behind the circuit board tray in order for the cover to be secure.
Take the BDS power cable that is now in the battery compartment and connect it to the Battery Adaptor board. Connect the 9 Volt connector to the adaptor board, opposite to the side labeled “BATT” and connect the 9 Volt battery to the side labeled “BATT”
Reassemble the grip to the Trigger frame.
Reattach the compressed air or CO2 source and you are ready to play!

**Roadkill** · January 7th, 2005, 09:41 PM

Nice

Answered some of my questions about the board

**paintballer05** · January 8th, 2005, 10:13 AM

where can we but this

**Silent Kill** · January 8th, 2005, 10:49 AM

it needs longer ball detents, right?

**Presidente** · January 8th, 2005, 03:58 PM

I'm not sure I'm allowed to post links other than xpaintball, but it's the place you also buy rat impulse bodies.

I haven't read anything about longer detents, just about using a WHITE bolt (voodoo probably) with the board, not a reflective black delrin. It's up there somewhere.

**1337** · January 8th, 2005, 04:48 PM

If Xpaintball dosen't sell that product you can link it.

Go ahead and post a link. Looks really sweet.

xPiZZeRx · January 8th, 2005, 05:41 PM

You would need a longer detent with any ACE system that uses an ACE cover. It's because the ACE cover is held onto the marker by the detent, so that would mean that you would need a longer detent for that side.

**Presidente** · January 8th, 2005, 06:28 PM

All right here's the link:
http://e-paintballoutlet.com/

What brand detents are recommended if I get the cs designs board?

xPiZZeRx · January 8th, 2005, 06:53 PM

New Designz Detents.

**Presidente** · January 8th, 2005, 06:54 PM

You're sure that'll work?

**Presidente** · January 10th, 2005, 07:40 AM

The BDS anti-chop board operation is transparent to the user. The board will automatically calibrate the sensor to the ball and bolt. However it is recommended that a non-reflective/black delerin bolt should NOT be used with this system. Under normal circumstances this system will prevent the marker from “Chopping” a ball when it is not correctly/fully loaded in the breech. If some paint should get onto the sensor the board will recalibrate it’s self so that it can function normally. When possible this paint should be cleaned from the breach and sensor.

Will my white delrin bolt work?

**Darkpaintball** · January 10th, 2005, 08:08 AM

well ur bolt is white and reflective and they recommend not using a black/non-reflective bolt... ill give u one guess as to whether it will work or not.

Yea it will work dont worry about it.

**Presidente** · January 10th, 2005, 03:26 PM

How am I to know if delrin is reflective or non reflective how can you tell?

**Silent Kill** · January 10th, 2005, 03:57 PM

i'm pretty sure the color make the difference between non-reflective/reflective. use a white bolt and you should be fine.

**Presidente** · January 10th, 2005, 04:00 PM

Check.

I also found the SP vision detents cheaper than the ND ones so I got those.

**1337** · January 10th, 2005, 04:29 PM

Any word on when more of these are going to be in?

**Presidente** · January 10th, 2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

Any word on when more of these are going to be in?

Sent them an email today, waiting for a reply. Shouldn't be too long.

**Presidente** · January 10th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1337PAINTBALLER

Any word on when more of these are going to be in?

I ordered mine from csd's site 1/9/05...I just emailed them asking when I should get it, gotta wait for a reply.

**Darkpaintball** · January 10th, 2005, 09:41 PM

umm u can tell if a bolt is reflective or not by just looking at it. Does it reflect alot of light? if so its probably reflective as in the case of an equalize or voodoo bolt.

If you hold it up to the light and it doesnt reflect much then, you have a non-reflective bolt. Many dark bolts, like stock impulse bolt, or nylatron bolts are black and non-reflective

**anxiouspaintblr** · January 18th, 2005, 09:56 PM

If I have a vison imp already do I HAVE to use their vision? Cause I'm considering getting this board for the ramping but I'd just assume leave my own vision on if possible.. My bolt is black and NON- reflective but it seems to work alright with my current vision...

Anyway I was also wondering if this board works on the "new and improved cricket board"? cause thats whats in my adrenalin imp.