Alpha

I'm thinking of getting one of these for my OS. Anyone own/reccomend a specific brand? I know they're loud, but I'm buying a new case (acrylic cases suck)

I want to have XP/Linux on one hard disc, and Vista on a super fast disc. If triple-booting is impossible, I'll just simple leave one hard drive unplugged, and switch the SATA cable if I want to boot XP/linux.

Also, I've seen 15,000RPM SCSI discs. I do not have a SCSI interface on my mobo. If I got a PCI SCSI card, could I boot from that disc?

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kant_think

You don't need that ****ing fast for Vista lmao.

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Alpha

10,000 RPM hard discs have super low latencies. That means any hard drive activity is going to be faster then a 7200RPM drive.

Its not about necessity, its about performance, and going college as a computer information technology student with the fastest rig on campus.

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TonyD

I recently read, in a PC magazine while wandering around Meijer with nothing better to do, something about the state of computer users' egos in the machines they build. Ten years ago it wasn't about spending two-thousand dollars to have the biggest-and-best computer, but rather about spending as little money as possible yet making your computer work brilliantly. I kind of prefer the old-school approach.

Indirect criticism... something to think about.

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mspainter

well 15000 would make it the fastest I am sure. I would go with that setup you mentioned, it sounds sick. XP/Linux on a 10,000rpm drive and vista hooked up to a PCI SCSI card would work I bet. Ive never seen a PCI slot that you can plug your HD into, sounds pretty sick.

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Alpha

mspainter: You can get PCI cards for anything... You can get RAID controllers that have IDE, SATA, and SCSI connections.

I may even bypass the whole linux dualboot by putting it on an older PC... Linux can really bring new life back to yesterday's PC's. So smooth...

Tony: I've been a consumer of computer parts for the longest time, and you get what you pay for. I understand the mentality building PC's used to be, but today its in a market that is geared on making money. The newest/fastest/most capacitative components are expensive, and yesterday's technology can be found in the clearance bin.


Building PC's is fun because its an endless process. Every 6 months now your processor is going to be outdated. Think about what we're going to be able to do when we get nanotechnology down.

Anyways, about the money part- I dont like making money. I like spending it. Robert Heinlein taught me that last night.

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I used to have a 80gb SCSI harddrive back in the day.

It was the ****.

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I've had my 10k Western Digital raptors for a while now...going on four or five years now.

They're only 40 gigs each. They're loud enough that some people would either say they're about to die or just be annoying...Been that way since I first got them. They're quick little guys.

I'd get a fan for them. Mine are in little harddrive cooling things, mounted in 5" drive bays. The temp probes on them still say they hit 35-40C once they've been on for a while.

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phew... My cooling system can handle anything short of a bonfire. I've got 5 case fans (two of them are 5000RPM 90ish CFM), plus a nice big 100% copper heatsink, giant 160mm fan built into my PSU, RAM coolers, a 3.5" cooler for my 250gb drive, and a PCI slot fan.

Noise really doesn't mean much to me, obviously.

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TonyD

I'm not talking about skimping on quality parts; rather, I'm talking about not overdoing it. I'm not talking about the market, either, but us, the consumers.

I have a computer that is faster than the computers of almost everyone that I know, and I will be more than pleased with this computer for years to come. How much did I spend on it? Somewhere in the $600-700 range, and with the parts dropping in price, it could probably be built for about $500 now, a year later.

What I was saying was that the attitude used to be "Look! I'm efficiently squeezing all this performance out of a six-hundred dollar machine!" and not "I have the biggest and best parts!" Besides having a fast computer (but really, I have a fast computer, too), what is the use of having a $500 video card and CPU with four cores and then a $300 dollar case with fancy lights? To me it just seems like it is the feeding of the ego. Maybe you've never thought of it this way before, but it is rampant materialism, and the "technology industry" is perpetuating this dangerous attitude.

Then again, it's your money and I can't tell you what to do with it. I simply wish for everybody to spend their money wisely and efficiently, not wasting it on excessive goods, that's all.

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Alpha

But in 1995, how much did a 20gb hard drive cost? I'm not positive, but I think its in the hundreds.

Building a quality product takes good quality control (and high technology)- which costs a company more money. In turn, they have to charge more for their product to make it profitable. So the best things often cost more.

I could have easily built a computer for under $400. But would I be able to play the newest games?

I am materialistic in the sense that I am a tech freak. I love technology, and the rate at which its increasing is exponential when compared to 100, or even 50 years ago. I like the newest and fastest only because I see it as progress.

HOWEVER, building computers is only a hobby of mine. Yes, I am probably driven by the male human instinct to be better then others. That's fine. I'm a male human, and I am better then others.

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