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titocampos1990 · August 10th, 06:00 PM

Kill Kill Kill!

**100%Wooddog** · August 10th, 06:03 PM

Mail fraud....?

**ZeRO eFFeCT** · August 10th, 06:11 PM

Havnt you had this for a long time? I saw this in the rate my gun such a long time ago...did you just figure out it was broken or was it working and then died?

**IMPULSEMAN101** · August 10th, 06:12 PM

Get His address and Find some One In the area that Lives there and They can go Have a talk with him..

**tippmannfronter** · August 10th, 06:13 PM

ive had it for a few weeks now but i knew it wouldnt turn on but i just used a charger and it wouldnt charge so now i know its gunna be...expensesive

titocampos1990 · August 10th, 06:14 PM

did you try a NEW battery

**Deathperception** · August 10th, 06:19 PM

Yup mail fraud yup a little definition I hope this doesn't sound like an attourney wrote it

I'm taking criminal justice in college

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The Mail Fraud Statute (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1341) is the nation's oldest federal consumer protection statute and effectively fights white-collar fraud and product and service misrepresentation (the key word in this circumstance). It defines fraud as a scheme or artifice which uses the U.S. Mail to obtain money or property by means of false or fraudulent representations.

Mail fraud is a criminal scheme where the postal system is used to obtain money or anything of value from a victim by offering a product, service, or investment opportunity that does not live up to its claims (the paintball marker). To obtain a mail fraud conviction, a prosecutor must prove (1) the facts surrounding the offer were intentionally misrepresented (the e-mails communicated throughout the process) and (2) the U.S. Mail was relied on to carry out the scheme (its obvious how to prove this).

I hope if you don't persue this further that you've learned a lesson you've got to be more careful on risky transactions like these while this may be some stupid kid that thinks theres nothing you can do about it and doesn't know the consequences he can face.

O well I didn't come here for legal banter next thread

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**tippmannfronter** · August 11th, 09:55 AM

^^your goooood...

UPDATE-still no answer on his phone since about 9 30 last night.

EDIT-its nighthawk268...dude why are you hanging up and ignoring me calls

**ShotgunWeddingz** · August 11th, 10:12 AM

Another good marker bites the dust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number One N00b

...if youre going to go physco experiment with crucifixtion

But have fun with it... Put the post on a Sit n' Spin.

Here's a step you may be able to help us with guy; post pics. of this Angel. If he's a forum member, maybe he's posted pictures of it before and it may or may not look familiar. Anyhow, it couldn't hurt to try.

-Weddingz

EDIT- I just saw you found out his name. Nevermind. Post his phone number and adresse.

**hvc801** · August 11th, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number One N00b

...if youre going to go physco experiment with crucifixtion

LMFAO, gold, pure gold...

autocockerocker · August 11th, 10:24 AM

Sucks to here this bro. It'll be ok. Just get his address and we can track him down and kill his dog.
*brotha pound*

**tippmannfronter** · August 11th, 10:29 AM

*brotha pound back*noticed he posted to the splatmaster thread but not mine?

**aTrain2k7** · August 11th, 10:34 AM

As much as I feel sorry for you man, you really can do anything. He ripped you off, cheated you, but there was no fraud policy as that related to ebay. Because you didn't make a fraud policy, and have him hand sign it or, you weren't part of a website that had a fraud policy when buying/selling/trading, you can't do anything about it. He can't get arrested for what he did, even though it was wrong. Sorry man, keep this as a lesson, don't trust people that you don't know, take extra precausions. Sorry man.

**aTrain2k7** · August 11th, 10:37 AM

However, if you can find someone who recorded the phone call, (Phone Company), about a verbal agreement, then you can take him to court to get it back. The phone company (Different Ones) sometimes record something when a word triggers it, something like "bomb" or something, and sometimes they record phone calls to keep records on everyone. (They don't always listen to them, but store them) and I am sure you can call you phone company and give it a shot.

**tippmannfronter** · August 11th, 10:49 AM

^^that would be tight but i dont think they would store it even tho we use the word gun alot

titocampos1990 · August 11th, 11:42 AM

Rape His Dog!!!

**hvc801** · August 11th, 11:52 AM

if you cant do anythign to him or to get your gun back, your stuck with the angel, which is not that bad at all, all it needs is fix ups, whats the price range we're looking at around here?

**[^_^x]** · August 11th, 12:11 PM

ok you have his name address and user name. if you lost his adress his IP can be traced or his Phone can be traced. Try calling him again and tell him you'll take legal action. A verbal agreement doesnt have to be recorded. Im pretty sure if you take him to court the judge isnt going to think you wanted a broken gun. .......that or you could tell us where he is and one of us closest to him could go "talk" to him.

**hvc801** · August 11th, 12:34 PM

^thats a good plan

**tippmannfronter** · August 11th, 12:35 PM

price range is about 100 dollars and i also need a new hopper i aint got one now mines smashed...so yea ima leave a message about the legal actions