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Old March 18th, 09:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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marker's recoil type

Well i need to know what type of recoil a marker has? confused yet? what i mean is the recoil firearm type(rearward) or foreward like an airguns. the reason is i'm a sniper fanatic if you will and have plans to mount a scope on my soon to be Tippmann 98 Custom. Now a rifle type scope on a foreward recoiling marker equals a scope being internally defeated they're meant to take rearward movement not foreward. answer plz TY
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Old March 18th, 09:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Lol Sniping in paintball. How far are you gonna shoot 500 yards? Lol ok ok ill stop. Guns normally blow backwards execpt for very expensive non blowbacks. They only blowback a little bit. Have fun sniping o_O. Lol..........................................
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Old March 18th, 10:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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uhhh...why is this in the autocockers page!?

anywayz buddy i think your in the wrong forum...try the Tippmann pages

lol

anywayz not ALL guns have recoil, like autocockers. Autocockers have slim to no recoil, Mag's are blowforward, and plenty of others are blow backs.


PS. its kind of hard to snipe in paintball
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Old March 18th, 10:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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First, this should be in the the Pantball Chat or Tippmann sections of the forum.

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PS. its kind of hard to snipe in paintball
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Old March 18th, 10:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Blowback guns contain more recoil than higher end guns, they have less 'kick' as its commonly refered to. The reason for this is because higher end guns operate by a ram instead of a striker, and the ram uses less pressure creating less kick.
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Old March 19th, 12:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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A. paintball sniping= kinda pointless, just not enough range potential
B. wrong forum
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Old March 19th, 01:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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i honeslty do not know how the hell this is in the autococker part, serious how do you make a mistake like that. i know its your first post, but come on.


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Old March 19th, 03:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i honeslty do not know how the hell this is in the autococker part, serious how do you make a mistake like that. i know its your first post, but come on.


jesus...
haha i had to think about it
my theory is
He's not well into paintball so he doesn't know what an autococker is. and because he doesn't know what an autococker is he probably thought it was a gun that automatically cocks after it fires. thus showing that he doesn't know a thing about paintball....my second clue was that he said he wanted to snipe
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Old March 19th, 03:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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^ as to your last part, well yeah, a cocker is a gun that automaticly cocks. lol. he just confused that with say a blowback, easy to do for someone new i'm sure.

i don't have time or i'd dig up alphas sniping thread...sombody care to do it for me?

the only way you can do anything even akin to sniping in paintball is basicly just camping. paintballs don't have the range or accuracy for any type of sniping. if you do intent to try and engage at longer ranges in the woods you will NEED a flatline barrel for that tippy tho.

hopefully a mod will move this soon...
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Old March 19th, 04:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sniping please. Read the rules before you post. Look before you post.
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Old March 19th, 05:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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^ as to your last part, well yeah, a cocker is a gun that automaticly cocks. lol.
Yeah but ALL guns/except pump guns, cock back automatically making his Tippy fit in that general class.
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hopefully a mod will move this soon...
hopefully but mods don't often come in this part of town.
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Old March 19th, 05:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There is no such thing as sniping in paintball, its physically impossible. You can waste your money on a scope or put it where it counts such as a new barrel--which brings me to another point, don't buy a 21" barrel its completely pointless and shows what a newb you are. As for the question it'll "kick" rearward.
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Old March 19th, 05:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah but ALL guns/except pump guns, cock back automatically making his Tippy fit in that general class.

hopefully but mods don't often come in this part of town.
yea, note the next part of my last reply...

truth, cocker section needs its own mod.
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Old March 19th, 06:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old March 19th, 06:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You can snipe in paintball. Sniping is a tactic. How can their be no such tactic? It is a bad tactic, especially when attempted by new players who watch a lot of war movies. Kamakazi is a bad tactic, but it still exsists.

The people who usually say their isn't sniping in paintball watch to many war movies and are confused. Sniping is attacking an enemy from a concealed location.

Buy accesories such as huge barrels, scopes, etc is a waste though, and most of it is over hyped. Paintballs are sphere shaped, meaning they won't be very accurate due to arrodynamics. That and the trajectory make scopes useless. Long barrels just cause more friction between the paintball and the barrel, so how is an object supposed to go further when more force is resisting it?

But yes, this is in the wrong forum and chances are no mods come in here regulary. This is why PbF has the Report Post option (the button below the posters info).

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Old March 20th, 08:09 AM   #16 (permalink)
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yeah mp11 got it most guns cannot shoot over 100 feet accuratly w/o drop off, so that type of sniping is out, but shooting people from a concealed position is possible.
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Old March 20th, 10:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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couple of youse are mean but yea i'm not after 200yrd 10x scopes stuff. I'll be the one concealed for close range sniping (Police marksmen are an example). A 4x scope at most and only if i can't get cheaper/ lesser power. I mearly wanted to know the type of recoil because even $1000 rifle scopes are easily wreaked by the gun there not supposed to be one...ie a Leupold 10x M8 rifle scope on a GAMO .117 pellet gun. the pellet gun is gonna absolutly destroy the inside mechanizims that normally are safe from a .300WM's harsh recoil.
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Old March 21st, 04:42 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'll take a shot at this, since there's plenty all over these forums about why sniping is bad and all that.

The main recoil effect on a Tippmann or Spyder is from the internals moving. The hammer and bolt move forward under spring tension, the marker pushes slightly backward because of this. Once the hammer hits the valve it is blown back to the cocked position by a burst of compressed gas, so now I'd say the marker would shift forwards slightly. As the bolt and hammer continue to move backwards, they compress the drive spring and are stopped in time to catch on the sear and stop for the next shot.

Overall, my experience with the 98 has been just flat out shaking while being fired. Granted it isn't side to side at all, but I couldn't tell you if it kicks more forwards or backwards during a firing cycle. I wouldn't be suprised to learn it is nearly equal in each direction, if someone has that knowledge.

Hope that helps you. I want to say though that taking a hit from a paintball doesn't seem to be something scopes and their optics tolerate very well. If you're thinking of one that is expensive enough that you're worried about the recoil damaging it, I would look again.
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Old March 21st, 07:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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well no matter how expensive a scope is it's still gonna be history unless the right kind (airgun type now im thinkin) and yea i know a hit isn't that great either so im goin for a low profile scope.
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Old March 21st, 08:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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well since most of the other people were a little rude well more or less dicks and didnt answer just flamed

first off
your gun will have some recoil, it will push back aginst you. thats a given, anything that shoots a projectile forward will push aginst you.
but more important
sniping in paintball is just basically sitting and waiting for someone to wait to walk into your range/vision. it can only be done in woods ball, as its the only place you can hide. No matter what anyone tells you all guns shoot the same distance, tippys dont shoot any farther then an autococker or a mag, no matter what (with the exception of flatlines, which put spin and make it fly farther). You cant pick someone off from accrost the field unless youre real good at lobing shots.
saying you are a sniper in paintball is often frowned apon bc you look noobish and normally involves a lot of sitt