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**Tippy_A-5** · January 4th, 01:05 PM

What do you think of the Tippmann C3 and the concept of propaine being used as an air source? Post your comments, ideas, and views here.

**Mescaline** · January 4th, 01:15 PM

im not sure.

what would the tanks be like? such as how many shots could you get from a propane tank?

what pressure does propane operate at?3

what would be the size and weight of propane tanks?

and what are the benefits of using propane?

***sniper1010*** · January 4th, 01:37 PM

The Pump versipon gets (ithink) 18000 shots of great balls of fire. But it overheats rather quickly.
Thats fora 9oz tank.
Propane is rathger llgiht and highly fameable. so im staying wiht good ol air.

***MedicDVG*** · January 4th, 01:39 PM

Propane has been used for years in airsoft and industrial nail guns as "green gas". It is a stable liquid under pressure and has about the same vapor pressure of co2, if I am not mistaken.

It works great for a propellant.

My concern is that the tippman C3 is combusting the gas and using the products of this combustion to propell the paintball. This is too close to the definition of a "firearm" to suit me. I don't like mixing this kind of thing into the legal arena of regualr co2 or HPA paintball -- hell, that has been the saving grace in many arenas in terms of paintball related arrests and prosecutions as all other paintball markers are not considered firearms.

With the advent of using the combustion gasses, now we encroach on the legal definition of firearm.

fire·arm (fīr'ärm') n. A weapon, especially a pistol or rifle, capable of firing a projectile and using an explosive charge as a propellant.

So if you are pulled over with that in the back seat, can you be arrested for having a firearm in your car? If you are under 18, can you legally own this in some jurisdictions that prohibit the ownership of firearms to minors? If you overshoot someone and injure them, can you be charged with reckless endangerment with a firearm? If someone is shooting stopsigns or whatever outside of a paintball arena, are they causing malicious mischief with a firearm?

See what I mean. The consequences from simple assault, to assault with a firearm are vastly different and more severe.

I am not sure that the paintball industry wants to travel that road.

I am sure it is a cool marker... but this is getting to close to blending markers with guns for me to be at ease..

***sniper1010*** · January 4th, 01:43 PM

^^^^very true man. Guns and paintball no muxing. bad bad idea...

***HavokHank*** · January 4th, 01:52 PM

I agree with MedicDVG. The concept of combustion make the C3 too close to a firearm for comfort.

EDIT: I think a 12oz propane canister gets something like 50,000 shots.

***MedicDVG*** · January 4th, 02:04 PM

overruled sam...
Lets see what kind of discussion we have.. please

**tippmann666** · January 4th, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HavokHank

EDIT: I think a 16oz propane canister gets something like 50,000 shots.

fixed

***Arom*** · January 4th, 02:16 PM

i think that 50,000 shots from a 16 oz tank is nice. Even better is the fact that you should get 1000+ balls from a 12 gram, that would mage guns lighter and easier to operate. The only minus i see here is the threat of propane left in a trunk blowing feilds up and the firearm defenition. A good idea that just needs some refining

**Mescaline** · January 4th, 05:59 PM

co2 and nitro are serving there purpose well enough that we dont really need to look for a replacement. plus it would require a large shift in the painball community for arenas to start carrying fill stations. it just isnt worth it, not enough benefits.

**Tim-Tim** · January 4th, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescaline

co2 and nitro are serving there purpose well enough that we dont really need to look for a replacement. plus it would require a large shift in the painball community for arenas to start carrying fill stations. it just isnt worth it, not enough benefits.

Propane would be a definate improvement ove hpa and co2.Its lighter and more efficient.If there was someway to use the propane without it haveing to ignite it would be one hell of a marker.

***GvegasPB*** · January 4th, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mescaline

co2 and nitro are serving there purpose well enough that we dont really need to look for a replacement. plus it would require a large shift in the painball community for arenas to start carrying fill stations. it just isnt worth it, not enough benefits.

You don't need to carry fill stations, the 16oz tanks last for 50,000 shots(gonna take a looooooong time to deplete with a pump) and you can buy these 16oz tanks at Wal-Mart for like 5-10 dollars, in the Camping section.

***Victory*** · January 4th, 08:14 PM

So, wait, the C3 actually ignites the propane? And uses that to propell the paintball?

Are we sure on this? I thought it just uses it as a gas, like CO2...

EDIT: Oh, wait, or does ignite it!

***Collins88*** · January 4th, 08:38 PM

propane is a gas just like any other.. its perfectly safe and it will not explode like you would think. there is another thread related to this system and marker... i believe it's in the tippmann section.

I bring you the C3

***prodigy911*** · January 4th, 08:41 PM

is propane only going to work for the c3

***MedicDVG*** · January 4th, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Collins88

propane is a gas just like any other.. its perfectly safe and it will not explode like you would think. there is another thread related to this system and marker... i believe it's in the tippmann section.

I bring you the C3

It was my understanding that the reason that you got so many shots per tank is that it injects a small amount of propane where it is ignited and the massive expansion of the gas once it ignites is what propells the ball.

I am trying to find more information on the tippman website, but so far I am not finding any information.

If anyone has a link to its performance specs where it talks about this, let me know.

***Collins88*** · January 4th, 08:47 PM

to prodigy911:

well thats the only marker configured to use it so far so... yeah... but in the future maybe not.

**seanness** · January 4th, 08:55 PM

i agree that the use of propane as a COMBUSTABLE propellent is bad but as medic said the airsoft nail gun and other industries have used it as just a propelling gas not as a combustable which would be great for the paintball industry for cheaper and more avaliable fills although it will not get the same amount of shots per fill if it isnt combusted