That is insanely fast, i would poop myself if i saw sameone doing 26bps with a tippy on the field.
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That is insanely fast, i would poop myself if i saw sameone doing 26bps with a tippy on the field.
I think Mortis is going to get that gun slow enough to make this work.
But... how will that effect the semi-auto performance? It just occurred to me that if you suppress cycling to make the full auto work you would have a dog of a gun in semi auto...
...then again, I guess you would be firing bursts of auto for semi - since going back to semi auto requires internal remodeling.
I think Mortis is going to get that gun slow enough to make this work.
But... how will that effect the semi-auto performance? It just occurred to me that if you suppress cycling to make the full auto work you would have a dog of a gun in semi auto...
...then again, I guess you would be firing bursts of auto for semi - since going back to semi auto requires internal remodeling.
I have moved the endcap back a notch so that it does not hold the drive spring under as much tention but i still need to see how that affects things
On a side note I plan on not standing behind the gun when i test this. and yes that is an o-ring replacement (it will not seal as well as the stock one will)
I hope that once I am done you just swap triggers, swap end caps, replace a pin, and reconect the RT line to go from Full auto back to semi (Might make a drop in kit) And that is not too much remodeling and should take less then 5 mins. That is why I am leaning towards maching a new end cap but this is spring breake this week so I am kinda on hold for machining any thing till next Tuesday and I will not know if it will work till i can test it out.
Improvements have been made it is now down to 23 bps
But that might not be right mostly because of there is a slight problem...
The gun now has some wicked kick because the cocking pin keeps hiting the back of the slot
This means that IF their is enough noise made when it hit when i gold waved it may be showing up as a 2nd spike and if that is true. That means that I have gotten it down into the 11.5 BPS range which is what i feel is more likely
And yes I am able to put in single shots cause in the last test i would get 2 shots cause by the time the sear was up the hammer was already going forward
For anyone with the new 98 custom stock triggers or a-5
Not long ago I had purchased a 98 custom, however the stock trigger setup was totally different than what the schematics stated.... actually the setup was identical to the A-5. The sear spring is located towards the back of the sear and was used for pushing the sear to lock the bolt back instead of pulling on it like the old 98c triggers.
So for anyone attempting to modify their newer 98c or A-5* i've managed to make the gun fully automatic without purchasing any additional parts. (THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION MORTISDEUM!!)
Instructions:
1.Pull out the specific trigger pin stated in the image.
2.Find a piece of "L" shaped metal to wedge between the slidder spring (within the slidder) that would reach the tip of the sear.
(computer casing alloys work great)
- Make sure that the piece is long enough to move the sear up as you pull back on the trigger
The problem, as you all know up to this time, is that the bolt cocks and uncocks way too quickly. 28bps quick
I haven't yet attempted to slow down the bolt to a resonable pace. Let me know if anyone succeeds in doing so. Thanks.
Ya roommates don;t seem to like being woken up to the sound of guns being tested at 2 in the afternoon. And asking when I would get around to fixing and retiming his cocker. (The same time he finds my valve tool i loaned him so he could fix it )
Is there any chance of getting the gun down to around 12- 16 bps? Would getting a stiffer drive spring cause the gun to bring back the bolt at a lower rate?
Is there any chance of getting the gun down to around 12- 16 bps? Would getting a stiffer drive spring cause the gun to bring back the bolt at a lower rate?
Read the whole thread.
Mortis THINKS he already has it down to about 12 BPS. He cannot verify that until he mills the cocking slot OR uses a rear cocking system because the hammer pin is actually slamming into the end of the cocking slot and creating sound spikes - possibly corrupting the sound recording used to evaluate how many BPS.
See here:
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Originally Posted by Mortisdeum
Improvements have been made it is now down to 23 bps
But that might not be right mostly because of there is a slight problem...
The gun now has some wicked kick because the cocking pin keeps hiting the back of the slot
This means that IF their is enough noise made when it hit when i gold waved it may be showing up as a 2nd spike and if that is true. That means that I have gotten it down into the 11.5 BPS range which is what i feel is more likely
And yes I am able to put in single shots cause in the last test i would get 2 shots cause by the time the sear was up the hammer was already going forward
Mortis - is it just me or am I seeing the hammer actually fluctuate cycle speed? Maybe it has to do with the pin smashing into the shell. Also... that sounds A LOT slower than your first run, and I think you are right - the sound reading is tainted from the cocking slot problem.
tl;dr, but god man thats old!! use the search. I figured that one out and did it for ****es and giggles the first time i ever took my tippy apart. I tried to shoot it with a revvy once, woulda made for one helluva nice margarita maker
edit: btw I did it in what is technically a better/simpler method. I simply cut a short length of heavy guage wire and stuck it inthe gap of the sear so that the sear is all the way fowards at all times.
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you could always leave it at 11.5 or w/e, but why not put it up around 20 if you can, and then ghetto rig a was board or something and eyes. that would be so tight, to mack with at a rec field.
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tl;dr, but god man thats old!! use the search. I figured that one out and did it for ****es and giggles the first time i ever took my tippy apart. I tried to shoot it with a revvy once, woulda made for one helluva nice margarita maker
edit: btw I did it in what is technically a better/simpler method. I simply cut a short length of heavy guage wire and stuck it inthe gap of the sear so that the sear is all the way fowards at all times.
OMG he is taking it further than anyone else has before, omg search pmg.
lol - ease up. Mortis is actually making it work (maybe). Its very cool.
w00t first post....
yea well i tried this with co2 and it didnt work but i am tring to get it to work i have a stock gun (got it a like a week ago) and need to get mods on it anyway so
A Full Auto Non-Electronic 98c with stock parts?!
Setup:
Thanx A LOT Predator14 
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