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spyderkid101 · April 14th, 08:04 PM

Holy ****! I gotta show my friends with tippys that mod!

**Mortisdeum** · April 14th, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by paintballer900

w00t first post....
yea well i tried this with co2 and it didnt work but i am tring to get it to work i have a stock gun (got it a like a week ago) and need to get mods on it anyway so

this mod will simple not work with co2 because of the gas' nature and the amount of gas the gun will be going through when firing.

As fo rthe kick problem I have found my set of files fso I will be able to "mill" the slot to stop some of the kick

Also I plan on heading out to Jungle Island this sat for a night game simply because I have not played in over 2 weeks and i seem to have developed a bad case of itichy trigger finger and stationary targets are not the same as a live ne that shoots back. I might also be willing to do a few quick mods between games

**skapunkin** · April 14th, 09:14 PM

My god man let us know. Let us know!

Hehe - are you uplanning on taking it out as is, full auto style and hoping you can feed fast enough?

or are you reverting to semi?

**Mortisdeum** · April 14th, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skapunkin

My god man let us know. Let us know!

Hehe - are you uplanning on taking it out as is, full auto style and hoping you can feed fast enough?

or are you reverting to semi?

Leaving it as it is for now. But i am going to use mostly one of my other gunsI got to break my Ion in. I did a few things to it and I want to see how well they work. and i have not used it a while

paintballer900 · April 14th, 10:27 PM

will it work with nitro or compressed air? just wondering so i know what to buy if i buy an air system

**mLuH** · April 14th, 10:44 PM

yes itll work with hpa..just make sure to get high pressure

paintballer900 · April 15th, 10:53 AM

oh ok well im still saving up for stuff

**Mortisdeum** · April 15th, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortisdeum

Leaving it as it is for now. But i am going to use mostly one of my other gunsI got to break my Ion in. I did a few things to it and I want to see how well they work. and i have not used it a while

Well i changed my mind the 98 is going with me just so that I can put some fear into the other team with it going full auto at crono atleast. but I am bringing the semi parts just in case it not "Feild" legal

But back on topic I am going to get a spring kit so that I can try to get a lower rate of fire

**skapunkin** · April 15th, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortisdeum

Well i changed my mind the 98 is going with me just so that I can put some fear into the other team with it going full auto at crono atleast. but I am bringing the semi parts just in case it not "Feild" legal

But back on topic I am going to get a spring kit so that I can try to get a lower rate of fire

I like how a spring kit is your first conventional idea for slowing the rate of fire down. You have already done things noone else would have thought of and ar ejust now trying a spring kit where that would have been most peoples first idea.

Did you mill the slot - can we get an accurate reading on BPS?

**Mortisdeum** · April 16th, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by skapunkin

I like how a spring kit is your first conventional idea for slowing the rate of fire down. You have already done things noone else would have thought of and ar ejust now trying a spring kit where that would have been most peoples first idea.

Did you mill the slot - can we get an accurate reading on BPS?

not yet,
Kinda spent the the entire day playing different feilds 7am -4pm SC village and 6pm- about 11.45pm over at Jungle Island and I just got home and out of the shower, Only came home once between the feilds and that was to get a pair of clean tournament pants and a jerssy. (14 hours of paintballing and more welts then i care to stop and count)

Found out when i took it to play it is once again shooting around 310 FPS and that is even with a leak that has developed in my vertical adapter that seems to be getting worst each time i air the gun up

Also found out that my Evlution does a funny thing when the 98 is on full auto. The first ball fires rest of the stack gets kicked back up by the bolt when it flys forward.

but the good news was that not one ball choped durring the test. And i got a few shocked looks from a few of the other players

I might mill the slot on monday after I recover from today. mostly because i am having a hard time tyoe and i am about too.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

**skapunkin** · April 16th, 03:05 PM

LOL

rest up Mortis, we don't to run you ragged with your tinkering. Pick it up when you have your legs back

***CustomProDude*** · April 16th, 06:00 PM

You lazy ass, get back to work!

paintballer900 · April 21st, 06:19 PM

Id just like to say i got this to work with CO2! Works perfect after just modding around with some springs cocks perfectly! its fast as hell

**Mortisdeum** · April 21st, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by paintballer900

Id just like to say i got this to work with CO2! Works perfect after just modding around with some springs cocks perfectly! its fast as hell

yes it can be done under the right conditions but at the time I was testing with co2 it was only 55-60* F so their were problems. because of the temperature. And because of how CO2 behaves your going to have some wicked problems with drop off and constiancy

Also I would love to see the Mod you did to your springs

paintballer900 · April 21st, 07:43 PM

http://media.putfile.com/98cFullAutoco2 heres a vid! Also i didnt do to much to the springs but ill show

i just used 2 normal springs from pens like u do for the lighter trigger pull mod (wich i basically did) but i made a homade sear with a straw around it to reduce noise, but turned out these made it go full auto perfectly

**nickxjones** · April 21st, 08:15 PM

thats sick pballer900, what temp did you have to be at for this to work with co2 and would it be worth replacing the sear spring with no intent to do this mod, like what effect does it have on the gun

paintballer900 · April 21st, 08:22 PM

It actually works well and idk what u mean about temp but im thinking it was about 50-60 degreese out side when i did this if thats what u mean... well ill try it in all temps scince its gunna be like 40 tommarow and i got a game tommarow. And i think it is worth to change the sear spring without using full auto because it really makes a huge difference in trigger pull but make sure u cover it or it makes the gun loud somehow i read

so...
EDIT: but if your using full auto the trigger pull gets hard because the way the trigger bushes the sear with the bolt
2nd EDIT: what would happen if i played paintball in the rain cause its supposed to pour here tommarow and i was wondering how that will effect my gun?

**nickxjones** · April 21st, 08:45 PM

it will just effect how the paintball will fly, it wont do any damage to the gun

**Mortisdeum** · April 22nd, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by paintballer900

It actually works well and idk what u mean about temp but im thinking it was about 50-60 degreese out side when i did this if thats what u mean... well ill try it in all temps scince its gunna be like 40 tommarow and i got a game tommarow. And i think it is worth to change the sear spring without using full auto because it really makes a huge difference in trigger pull but make sure u cover it or it makes the gun loud somehow i read

so...
EDIT: but if your using full auto the trigger pull gets hard because the way the trigger bushes the sear with the bolt
2nd EDIT: what would happen if i played paintball in the rain cause its supposed to pour here tommarow and i was wondering how that will effect my gun?

Glad to seee It works for the short burts like you did in the vid with co2. just listening to it your doing about 23-26 bps range

Just take it EZ interms of fire and keep it to short bursts cause If you go for the sustained vollies your tank is going to freeze up.

Also with this mod you don;t need the trigger spring because the sear spring will return the trigger for you and that will help lighten the trigger some.

Now to explain why co2 is not a good gas to use for this mod *Pulls a white lab coat out of the desk and puts it on*

Here a full 20oz tank at a few temps and what the tanks pressure is
120 F = 908 PSI
100 F = 877 PSI
80 F = 845 PSI
60 F = 814 PSI
40 F = 783 PSI

So the lower the temp the lower the tank pressure

Then again at 1/2 full (10oz of co2)
120 F = 454 PSI
100 F = 438 PSI
80 F = 422 PSI
60 F = 407 PSI
40 F = 391 PSI

And from that we can also see that a half filled tank has half the pressure of a full tank

A quick way to see the pressure of a is if you use this formula

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