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April 8th, 03:16 AM
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A Full Auto Non-Electronic 98c with stock parts?!
Not too long ago (well 5 mins any way) I discovered a small trick that should be able to turn a 98c into a full auto gun with the parts that are already in the gun and no real work needed.
And it is 2 simple things
1. Take out the pin that the sear rests on
2. Extend the sear triper on the triger so the the sear now rests in it
The reason this should work is now the triger will hold the sear down so the bolt and hammer will not be caught on the blow back and will fly forward to cycle again. That will keep hapening till the trigger is released and the sear rises back up and catchs the hammer.
I have not tested this yet but should be able to do so tomarrow.
On a side note I now know why my roommates get scared when ever I Tinker with stuff or be alowed lots of caffine when doing so
This post will be edited soon and the tread will be cleaned up
Last edited by Mortisdeum : August 8th at 01:27 AM.
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April 8th, 08:59 AM
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pm when u test that out and tell me the results, seems interesting
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April 8th, 09:57 AM
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Its gonna cycle way faster than your hopper can feed. Basically its gonna turn into a paint blender. We've been down this road a thousand times. If you do this youre gonna need a qloader and lots of prayers.
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April 8th, 01:10 PM
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pm when u test that out and tell me the results, seems interesting
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Why not just post it here
26 BPS A bit slower then expected but with in the range of a few hoppers but a whole Q-Loader pod would be gone in less then 3.8 Sec
Vid can be found here
One thing i did notice was ther was a good bit of vibration mostly from the hammer flying back and forth
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April 8th, 01:52 PM
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Its gonna cycle way faster than your hopper can feed. Basically its gonna turn into a paint blender. We've been down this road a thousand times. If you do this youre gonna need a qloader and lots of prayers.
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But what if one were to use a much stiffer spring?
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April 8th, 02:00 PM
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But what if one were to use a much stiffer spring?
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That would make it cycle faster or sputer
A softer spring would mean that it takes less force to return the hammer but it also comes forward at a slower rate
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April 8th, 02:10 PM
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In that pic can you specify which pin you took out?
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April 8th, 02:15 PM
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In that pic can you specify which pin you took out?
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i did in the post text
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Originally Posted by Mortisdeum
1. Take out the pin that the sear rests on
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April 8th, 03:58 PM
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That would make it cycle faster or sputer
A softer spring would mean that it takes less force to return the hammer but it also comes forward at a slower rate
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alright - so its it possible to use a combination of soft springs to significantly slow the cycling down to a feedable rate like 12-16bps?
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April 8th, 04:09 PM
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Rawr...n stuff.
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Bejeezus, mort, that thing shoots fast.
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April 8th, 04:43 PM
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Would that work on an A-5?
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April 8th, 04:57 PM
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alright - so its it possible to use a combination of soft springs to significantly slow the cycling down to a feedable rate like 12-16bps?
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It may be possable I am still experimenting with it a little
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Bejeezus, mort, that thing shoots fast.
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I always aim for the best
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Would that work on an A-5?
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Not sure I would have to sit down with one to see if it can be done
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April 8th, 08:21 PM
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I don't think it will work on an A5, the trigger frame, springs, and all that jazz are totally different.
{e} And I think the A5 uses compression springs...and if that's the case, we still might be able to do something with it.
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Hey gyuz i r teh n00b to p8ntb4ll and i hve a intimidator wut kind of co2 can shuld i use 9oz 12oz or 20oz!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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April 8th, 08:35 PM
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thats awesome. full auto (and crazy fast) 98c with no money spent.
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April 8th, 10:55 PM
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that is sick, cool find...you should mess with a SpyderXtra and figure out a way to make it full auto  ?
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April 8th, 11:02 PM
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Its gonna cycle way faster than your hopper can feed. Basically its gonna turn into a paint blender. We've been down this road a thousand times. If you do this youre gonna need a qloader and lots of prayers.
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so if i did that on my 98c would i be ok?...would the cyclone feeder handle it well? and is that ok for your gun? wouldn't it wear the crap out of your bolt?
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April 9th, 12:39 AM
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the cyclone will not keep up with 26 bps.
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April 9th, 02:08 PM
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I just am waiting for Mortis' to come back and tell us he is using two springs to slow cycling down to 16BPS.
Please come back, Mortis.
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