Trbo323

so im acually asking this for a friend of mine who has been having massive problems with his a-5, every time he gets it running it is breaking balls in the breach. he took all the mods he had off the other day and tryed it and it still broke paint, has anyone else had this problem? He is just about to sell it if the problem continues, we have tried everything we can think of, the soft paddels, making sure the hopper is compleatly full, he tryed taking the barrel addaptor off and running a flatline barrel, he has a responce trigger that he disconected, still nothing, and a low pressure chamber for the cyclone feed. we are fairly certain the problem isnt with the feeding, we are pretty sure its after they are fed in that they are breaking

martix_agent

what sort of paint are you using? is it quality paint that is fresh? do you have paint inside your hopper/ "neck" to the hopper? if so it's the hoppers fault. Sounds like the timing my be just a hair off. dont' ask me how to adjust it thouhg, i've got no idea.

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Swedenzfinest

there could alot of reasons......1 you have to make sure that your paint is a well quality because my a-5 also pops paint but my problem was that the barell (Flat line) the bore was worn out and was uneven from excess use the gritty sand papery inside of the barrell is what im talking about..furthermore the cyclone feeder could be damaging the piant...this happened to my friend idk what happened exactly though also the gun itself could have a pressure problem and the pressure dosnt equalize in the gun and becomes uneven...

Swedenzfinest

matrix agent is most likely corect though it takes time to ajust to a correct hopper that fits you well

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make sure the feed rate matches with your fire rate corectly also

Trbo323

the paint is decent, its not turnamant quality or anything but its not like youll find it at a wall mart, i forgot the name of it, ill look at it when i get home, but my local shop just switched thier field paint to this stuff, they said it is just like pmi premium (which they used to use) except it has a better shelf life. he tried 2 different kinds of paint and both had the same result,

i dont think its the timing with the feeder though, becasue while he was testing it, he had the hopper off and made sure each ball was loaded b 4 he fired, it would still break paint, so iv been wondering if the bolt could be hitting the paint too hard?

as for the hoppers, he used to have an offset 300 round one, then we thought that it wasnt putting enoufgh weight on the ones at the bottom, so last time he had a stock one and another, aftermarket one, nither did anything to help.

martix_agent

It could be that there is a burr someplace in the breach or barrel.

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skapunkin

Check your timing by observing the execution as you manually engage the cyclone.

Tippmann offers excellent assistance as well - contact them if the problem doesn't present itself.

Not the solution but something to consider in the future: TechT cyclone feed mods.

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Trbo323

ya we were wondering that, thats why he switched out the barrel addaptor and put the flatline on, personally though im really thinking it something with the bolt or it just seems that the air hitting the balls is making them break, like its hitting them too fast or something, his velocity is fine though, shooting around 280

kenny_1491

Burr in the breach, bad detents, burr in the barrel. I am honestly leaning towards his detents are bad and they ar either puncturing the paint when they pass or are allowing the paint to go forward enough to allow a ball to just get into the breech for the bolt to chop on it's way forward.

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Trbo323

hmm havnt thought of those, ill talk to him tonight and see what he thinks, i got a feeling he is not going to want to tinker with it for a while, he was so frustrated with it yesterday, he only played about a half of 1 game before it gave out again and turned into a big spray can.

the_real_kaz

It's eaither the detent rubber is worn out or if he's using a flatline, something wrong with that.

Theirs a rare chance it's the cyclone but i would cheak these 2 first.

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I knew someone who put his detent in backwards.... it did pretty much the same thing.

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Trbo323

well he thought at first that the cyclone feed was breaking them but it looks like what was happening is they are breaking in the breach and then the paint is getting into the feed from there. he has upgraded the cyclone, he has a low pressure exhaust? i think is what it is, on it, he got the squishie paddels when he thought the stock ones were breaking the paint, i think thats all.

kenny_1491

They don't use new style detents?

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Trbo323

ok so i was just at the shop with him, and we were trying to work it out with the tech that was there, they were thinking it might be something with the anti-reverse bar part of the cyclone feed, he was saying that perhaps it wasnt pushing the ball all the way in causing it to catch as the bolt pushed it forward, ill talk to him tomorrow and see what happened, i had to leave before they were done with it, i think the a5 is just cursed, lol, at this point he is just gunna get it working then dump it on ebay and get an sp1, ill let you guys know what happens though

Swedenzfinest

you have to make sure that your paint is a well quality because my a-5 also pops paint but my problem was that the barell (Flat line) the barrel was worn out and was uneven from excess use the gritty sand papery inside of the barrell is what im talking about.. also there could be chips or maybe even debris in the chamber, furthermore the cyclone feeder could be damaging the piant...this happened to my friend idk what happened exactly...idk its probably not the bolt though if i were you id switch to RPS marbillizer

Trbo323

we ruled the paint out yesterday, the stuff the shop has is called nightmere, and the stuff he has been shooting is the same quality. The tech had noticed a bit of play in the cyclone feed, thats why they were thinking it was the anti-reverse bar, im thinking it may be a combination of that and the squishie paddles that were alowing the paint to come just far enoufgh back into the feeder that when the bolt came forward it would chop the very edge of the ball, which would cause all the paint to be in the breach, not in the feed. But like i said, Ill talk to him and let you guys know, its kind of an interesting problem though,

i think the marker is just cursed, he has put over $100 into upgrades trying to fix this, as soon as its working he is gunna sell it for a sp1

Swedenzfinest

yea id do the same!!!
that sucks though that it doesnt work right
good plan though to go with the sp1

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