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April 11th, 09:23 AM
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Tippmann Internal Upgrades
Are there any internal upgrades for the tippmann 98 custom that would help with accuracy (kind of a loaded question I know).
I already have compressed air (CO2 made condensation form on the barrel and made my shots screwy) A 14" dye xcel barrel and a nice ball/barrel match using tourney grade paint.
I was told that there are many upgrades for the internals but I can't seem to find any and didn't find any in the super sticky. I don't care about trigger pull/speed, speed of hopper or any of that. I'm not looking for speed. 3bps is fine with me. I hate the spray and pray idea.
I only play woods ball but I want to do everything I can for my 6yo tippy, preferably without any electronics.
What do you suggest?
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April 11th, 09:37 AM
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from what I've been told by my friend who plays paintball a lot, all paintball guns are inaccurate. having scopes or sights is meaningless in the world of paintball. They're just for looks.
For the custom 98 which I also have with the ACT, I've been reading that you can switch to the aftermarket bolt and springs set. Mostly it'll improve the velocity and increase the life of the internal parts, but as far as accuracy having a longer barrel or flatline barrel won't do wonders. Actually been reading that with the flatline barrel, there's a good chance that sometimes the paintballs won't break because they're forced into a backspin to increase distance.
But I'd look into changing out the bolt or springs if you're looking to upgrade internal parts. Action Village sell some pretty good aftermarket bolts:
Tippmann Model 98 Parts at ActionVillage.com : Paintball
The other things you can change or have a good supply of are O-rings
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April 11th, 10:15 AM
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Hmm, so I'm guessing that replacing the front bolt is beneficial. Will replacing this just ensure smooth operation and extend the life of my marker? That could be worth it.. I have recently replaced all of the o-rings in my marker as well and I ordered some hoppes #9 gun oil too
Thanks for that action village link. Thats a good site.
Edit: should I look into an all steel bolt or a steel/plastic mix? I'm guessing more steel is better because it's stronger. Any reason a harder/softer spring would be beneficial?
Thanks a lot guys.
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April 11th, 11:12 AM
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well the harder springs means more velocity, but perhaps using a softer spring with compressed air might be a good mix.
I'd probably go for the steel bolt rather than the steel/plastic mix. But for the most part the custom 98 is a very well built starter gun and the internal parts are cheap to replace
As for external cosmetic mods, I'd look at this site:
Tippmann A5 and 98 Butt Stock
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April 21st, 03:59 PM
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Hmm, the power tube is something I have been looking into... but is it really worth changing? I have a hard time imagining what kind of difference it could make that would be worth the money. And the only other thing I have been thinging of recently was getting something to make it closed bolt in the rear.
But again, I don't know what the benefit of it is. If it's just personal preference I'm probably fine with what I have. If there is less recoil or saved air or any improvement it may be nice to have. Who knows, after 6 years I may need to change my powertube anyway. It seems to be working fine though..  I would also need to re-loctite the hose-tube connection probably, right? I've never done that. Seems simple enough though..
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April 21st, 04:55 PM
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Well if your looking for accuacy, the plastic/steel bolt will be better, less weight=less recoil=better accuracy as ROF increases, as for the closed bolt in the back.....i have no idea what your talking about, as far as i know a 98c cant be made into a closed bold configuration, im no expert on the subject so i could be totally wrong but from what i understand closed bolt is when the marker pushes a ball forward of the breach BEFORE firing it out the barrel, so the bolt isnt touching the ball when the air is fired at it, it fires one then reloads and waits whereas an open bolt will have the ball sitting in the breach with the paintballs from the feed stack on top of it waiting to be fired, when the trigger is pulled in an open bolt the bolt pushes the ball forward while simotaniously releasing the air so the ball never stops moving forward. the closed bolts are, in a lot of peoples opintion, more accurate, iv never owned one so i cant say for sure but i do see how they could say that.
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April 21st, 06:20 PM
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Hmmm, so the new power tube is an option...
As for the closed rear bolt thing I just meant that the hole in the side be covered up and have it get cocked in the rear. I hear that closing that up is beneficial somehow. I can't really see how though, that's why I figured I would ask.
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April 22nd, 09:47 AM
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oooOOOOooo, you mean rear cocking rod, hmm, i cant see it hurting any, it probably would be better to keep dirt and debris out though.
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April 24th, 09:57 PM
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This is more of a continuation of the original question than an answer, but what about a low pressure kit? I have heard good things about it, and have heard it is a waste of money. The good things I have heard is that it makes your air burst have more volume and less pressure, rather than a short "pop" at high pressure. This supposedly gives you a more consistent shot and as a bonus quiets your gun a bit. Has anyone had any experience with this?
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April 24th, 10:18 PM
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It's fun to do, but it's quite difficult, both on the wallet, and just the way the marker works, to make it low pressure. If you have the time and the money, than go fir it, but by that time, you might be able to buy yourself a decent electro (just for price refrence).
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April 25th, 09:56 AM
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Ya thats a lot of work for a 98, id say sell it or keep it as a back up before doing that much to it, theres much better markers out there for the money
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May 13th, 09:12 AM
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Internals, I'd say upgrade the power tube and valve assembly. If it's 6 years old, then that might be a good idea.
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