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**Gandhi** · June 9th, 04:40 PM

why are tippys the only guns with offset loaders, so there's a clear sightline? (if there are other guns, my bad)

Flatliner105 · June 9th, 05:05 PM

cuz speedball markers are made to fire tilted....and straight feeds are faster....

tippys where made for woodball......so they made it wooder freieldy. So no longer do you have to guess where you shoot...you already have some sort of idea.

Mainly made for conveniece

**Shoe Lace** · June 9th, 06:11 PM

but then why does companies even put a sight rail on their markers if theyre useless?

**spke03** · June 9th, 07:04 PM

i always wondered taht on like pmi markers and spyders, i'm guessing that it is just for show

**pigstick** · June 9th, 07:27 PM

Do any companies put like a rail sight on the sides of their marker? I have short arms (I'm 5'5), and a 20 oz co2 tank, so I'd have to put the tank under my armpit to brace myself to look through the top sight on the tippmann. However, It's pretty easy to look down along the side of the gun, I was just wondering if this has been done, or is possible.

**braka** · June 11th, 08:47 PM

Even if the sight rail is not clear it can be used to mount an offset mount.

Pigstick yes there are some mods that add a sight rail to the side of the marker, usually barrel/shroud. Look at blackpoint engineering.

**braka** · June 13th, 12:31 AM

funny how every thread in the tippmann forum degenerates into a tippy vs. spyder thread

sights you see on rifles are pretty useless in paintball, beavertails are good though

btw i spit when i speak, my braces need to be adjusted

Lord Headley · June 13th, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by braka
funny how every thread in the tippmann forum degenerates into a tippy vs. spyder thread

It was funny for a while, now it no longer is. This is a Tippmann forum. You are to talk about Tippmann's. We're going to stop this on going flame war with Tippmann vs. Spyder right here, right now. Do not post anymore on the matter, or your post will be deleted.

Stay on topic!

Thank you,

- Brian

**A-5_ORdAn** · June 13th, 07:47 AM

The Evil Omen has a offset loader.

Flatliner105 · June 13th, 07:51 AM

the only way sites/red dot scope will actually help you is if you have a flatline barrel....then they work great...other then that they are pointless

**SEFishy** · June 13th, 04:29 PM

well there is a point for the rails to be behind the hopper, if u ever looked at a point sites directions, u would know how some work. but to save u the time, they are ment to be used with both eyes open. let ur non shooting eye look at the point site and the other eye were u want to shoot, now focus on ur target and u will magicly see a dot on them from the site. its like a mind trick. if u get the time try it and see

**donk3ypunch** · June 13th, 05:25 PM

the evil omen has the offset loader for its feed system. not for its sight. it is still a direct feed

**Kirkysboy** · June 14th, 10:19 AM

Haha my post got deleted because you know I was right and it made you look bad. ::wow these forums have gone downhill::

***Cobra*** · June 14th, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by A-5_ORdAn
The Evil Omen has a offset loader.

Yes, but the Omen (and Tippmann A-5) also have mechanical loading mechanisms to increase the feed rate to make up for the offset loader.

IMO the 98 Custom is awesome because you can aim down the barrel when playing woods ball. Basically the vertical feed guns are made more for playing speedball where you don't aim down the barrel.

**nightstalker88** · June 14th, 01:34 PM

oh so the 98 is an offset, so u could put a scope on it?

Flatliner105 · June 14th, 01:58 PM

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IMO the 98 Custom is awesome because you can aim down the barrel when playing woods ball. Basically the vertical feed guns are made more for playing speedball where you don't aim down the barrel.

dude wtf...in speedball u still aim down the barrel...u simply tilt the gun sideways...

Im seroius..ever since this hacking you have been doing wierd things...and you have said some really noobish things about paintball...

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oh so the 98 is an offset, so u could put a scope on it?

um i thought u have a 98....

n e wayz...scopes are pointless...and red dot scopes are pointless as well...however....u can use a red dot scope if you have a flatline. Cuz the ball will have a flat trejecotry. howeve rwith a normal barrel the ball will drop...so any type of aiming device is pointless

**Gandhi** · June 14th, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by Flatliner105
...so any type of aiming device is pointless

I find the stock sights a little helpful in woods ball when you see a player and want to make the first shot count

**nightstalker88** · June 14th, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Flatliner105
dude wtf...in speedball u still aim down the barrel...u simply tilt the gun sideways...

Im seroius..ever since this hacking you have been doing wierd things...and you have said some really noobish things about paintball...

um i thought u have a 98....

n e wayz...scopes are pointless...and red dot scopes are pointless as well...however....u can use a red dot scope if you have a flatline. Cuz the ball will have a flat trejecotry. howeve rwith a normal barrel the ball will drop...so any type of aiming device is pointless

well i dont yet, im gettin it tommorrow!

**braka** · June 14th, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gandhi
I find the stock sights a little helpful in woods ball when you see a player and want to make the first shot count

ill second that

**Chadbobb** · June 16th, 08:19 PM

but doesn't the gun feel offset because how the weight would be distrobuted on a 98c?