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**dhill0413** · June 16th, 01:59 AM

Brian why are you arguing with braka? your a mod you can just tell him to shut up and give him a warning...

ps i shoulda been modded for the tippy forum

**thEARy** · June 16th, 07:20 AM

The Cyclone feeder on the A5...has been clocked to handle 24bps...i belong to another web-site/forum, and a guy on there hit 21 bps(with an R/T). It is possible, the only problem is that the board for the e-grip is capped at 14 bps...BUT W.A.S is coming out with a new Equalizer board...bps undetermined as of yet. im guessing it`ll be around 18-20ish i hope.

I also guess they will decide to make based on demand so if you own a tippmann hit up W.A.S site and demand it...later outlawers rules are for girls crank it up to 340 and shatter some masks!!!!!!!!!!!!(Im Kidding)

and PS....that mag video with that new board hittin 32 bps..INSANE!

**braka** · June 16th, 08:11 AM

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Full auto is only illegal and breaking the rules at "speedball tourneys". Some of us don't play tourneys and play scenerio or other games where full auto and bouncing is allowed and not against the rules. So full auto and bouncing (sweetspotting) is only "cheating" when you are at a speedball tournament or if your field requires speedball tournament rules, but everywhere else anything is allowed.

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Rules are made to be broken (except for my rules! ) Not all of us play torny ball. I myself am a hardcore scenario player and outlaw baller. Some of these rules just plain suck. So why follow them?

ill say it again, if you break the rules that everyone else is following, that is unfair and unsportsmanlike

having an attitude of "i'm going to ignore the rules I don't like" is unsportsmanlike

**Cheap** · June 16th, 09:04 AM

Thanks for your info...

I agree that if you don't play tourney ball, then using full auto doesn't matter....

But, full auto is illegal in speedball for a reason. It takes no skill at all. With the light triggers, magnets, sensors and what now, it doesn't take that much to walk a trigger fast, but it does take some skill to walk it, and play while doing so.

Also, for those who don't like the fast guns cause all they do is "spray paint. They wait till they are bunkered by a mech tippmann." There is a reason it is called Speedball. There is "Woods skill", and "Speedball skill". There's a difference.

Lord Headley · June 16th, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by braka
ill say it again, if you break the rules that everyone else is following, that is unfair and unsportsmanlike

having an attitude of "i'm going to ignore the rules I don't like" is unsportsmanlike

The world isn't a fair place. Deal with it. Everyone breaks rules at one point or another. No one is perfect, so don't pretend to be. I play outlaw ball a lot, so just me playing alone is against the "rules" / "law". When you're just out having fun with your buddies, you do what they like, and if they do not care about full auto, then so be it. Stop this endless crying about everything being fair. New markers are made to go faster then anything else out there, so does that mean that the guy with the new marker pulling 16bps mech is unsportsmanlike b/c he's playing with a bunch of guys with tippys that are pull'n 8 bps? I think not.

Dan, i can't make you a mod, lol. You have to be voted on by all of the mods and Mark has the last say in it. Right now we do not need anymore mods. Keep the flaming down and keep up the good posts and maybe when a spot fills up someone will throw you in the mix.

- Brian

**braka** · June 16th, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Lord Headley
The world isn't a fair place. Deal with it. Everyone breaks rules at one point or another. No one is perfect, so don't pretend to be. I play outlaw ball a lot, so just me playing alone is against the "rules" / "law". When you're just out having fun with your buddies, you do what they like, and if they do not care about full auto, then so be it. Stop this endless crying about everything being fair. New markers are made to go faster then anything else out there, so does that mean that the guy with the new marker pulling 16bps mech is unsportsmanlike b/c he's playing with a bunch of guys with tippys that are pull'n 8 bps? I think not.

I do deal with it by playing on refereed fields where I expect refs to call players out who think "some rules suck, so why should I follow them?"

And it's you that is whining that rules are unfair, not me.

Jared101 · June 16th, 12:07 PM

i know this is off topic,but i havent been around for a while and just wanted to asy
nice paintjob smitty

**spedhunter88** · June 16th, 02:23 PM

full auto is acceptable in some places and not acceptable in others fact of the matter is rules need to be followed for reasons full auto isnt unsportsman like its just a different way of playing and fo u all who think its unfair my dad told me something long ago and it still sticks with me today THE WORLD AINT FAIR GET OVER IT PEOPLE

**KevinTheCake** · June 16th, 03:01 PM

Just cause the world is not fair doesn't mean that you have to like it and it doesn't mean that you have to choose to do nothing about it.

The world is not always fair, but that does not mean that something like paintball has to follow suite.

Flatliner105 · June 16th, 03:43 PM

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The Cyclone feeder on the A5...has been clocked to handle 24bps...

that is a bunch of bull...the cyclon was NOT clocked at 24 bps....the max is 16 i beleive (somewhere in there...16-17)...The parts inside the cyclone reset themselvs after every shot. Any faster then 16 bps and the cyclone cannot reset itself fast enough.

thats why egrip is only capped at 14....and RT can only get up to 16-17 if you tweak it PERFECT...most people can only get like 14 bps out of RT.

**braka** · June 16th, 03:59 PM

what about an a5 with an e-bolt...

**paintballer05** · June 16th, 04:01 PM

thats just how fast the cyclone feed its you can ou tshoot that.

Flatliner105 · June 16th, 05:21 PM

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what about an a5 with an e-bolt...

ebolt is for 98c only...just like egrip is for a-5 only...

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thats just how fast the cyclone feed its you can ou tshoot that

....ya you can outshoot that...but then you will be chopping left and right cuz the cyclon wont be feeding fast enough.

**nightstalker88** · June 16th, 05:59 PM

i can fire fasdt enough i dont need full auto anyway

**thEARy** · June 16th, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Flatliner105
that is a bunch of bull...the cyclon was NOT clocked at 24 bps....the max is 16 i beleive (somewhere in there...16-17)...The parts inside the cyclone reset themselvs after every shot. Any faster then 16 bps and the cyclone cannot reset itself fast enough.

thats why egrip is only capped at 14....and RT can only get up to 16-17 if you tweak it PERFECT...most people can only get like 14 bps out of RT.

whatever bro.......i just doubled checked with the ADMIN/MOD of this site...and yes 24 bps, and his boy hit 21bps with his R/T...and if the cyclone could only handle16, why would W.A.S a well respected company be coming out with a board that might hit 20 bps..why would they make it, if the gun they are making it for wouldnt be able to handle it.

**tippsownu** · June 17th, 09:33 AM

Does anyone remember the title of this thread at this point?

So about holding your own... I personally don't care for people who blow thousands of dollars on paintball guns. Generally, they are a bunch of 13 year olds that have no life. And let me tell you, you're a hell of a lot more likely to get overshot by some skinny 13 year old with no life and a Matrix shooting 20 bps than from some guy firing fully auto at 15 bps with their Tippmann.

Flatliner105 · June 17th, 09:49 AM

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whatever bro.......i just doubled checked with the ADMIN/MOD of this site...and yes 24 bps, and his boy hit 21bps with his R/T...and if the cyclone could only handle16, why would W.A.S a well respected company be coming out with a board that might hit 20 bps..why would they make it, if the gun they are making it for wouldnt be able to handle it.

have you personally ever shot over 17 bps? no...cuz if u did you would know its true. Thats why some people do the mod where you take of the cyclon and you can put a conventional hopper on...

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I personally don't care for people who blow thousands of dollars on paintball guns. Generally, they are a bunch of 13 year olds that have no life. And let me tell you, you're a hell of a lot more likely to get overshot by some skinny 13 year old with no life and a Matrix shooting 20 bps than from some guy firing fully auto at 15 bps with their Tippmann.

I dont kno why some people have this hatred...i dont know if its jealousy or what...but having a better gun doesnt automaticly make you stuck up and a noob. Have you ever thought they like paintball alot...so the money they make goes towards thier highest interest....which is paintball. Its not like its hard to get a high end marker any ways...i could easily have a WGP Karnivor if I didnt spend my money anywhere else. But I have other things to spend on...like Flight lessons, car insurance and such...its all about your priorities.

Everyone has some sort of interests.....some people its cars....others its some sort of hobby...and most of us on this forum...its paintball...just some people like it more then others.

Dont be hatin cuz someone rather spend money on thier marker rather then going out to the movies every weekend to attempt to get some "play". Paintbal is just higher on thier priority list.

Lord Headley · June 17th, 10:15 AM

^ This man gets it!

I work the crazy hours i do, b/c i need to pay for my paintball needs. Paintball is a way of life for me, everything i do revolves around it. Hate me for what i own, it doesn't bother me, at least i worked for every single piece of it. Nothing has been given to me, ever. Paintballer for life

- Brian

**braka** · June 17th, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by tippsownu
Does anyone remember the title of this thread at this point?

So about holding your own... I personally don't care for people who blow thousands of dollars on paintball guns. Generally, they are a bunch of 13 year olds that have no life. And let me tell you, you're a hell of a lot more likely to get overshot by some skinny 13 year old with no life and a Matrix shooting 20 bps than from some guy firing fully auto at 15 bps with their Tippmann.

Most squid-busters have nice guns, not all people with nice guns are squid-busters.

**dhill0413** · June 17th, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Flatliner105
WGP Karnivor